Posted on 05/23/2015 2:38:23 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
Mitt Walker- Don’t piss on my leg and tell me it’s raining.
What you don’t realize is that you ARE allowing politicians to make a decision here. For some reason, you think the bill failing is a NON decision while the bill passing IS a decision. Your logic just failed you completely.
You are allowing politician Elizabeth Warren and politician Chuck Schumer to make a decision, and you trust them more than you do Ted Cruz. Think about that. Think about that. YOU ARE MAKING A DECISION to agree with some of the most radical politicians in American history.
And the Bush analogy is just ridiculous. I don’t care what Freepers were bamboozled by Bush. I never was. Not by any member of that family.
I thought I was the only one here that thought this about Cruz. I have said time and again, I am not a fan.
Cruz is owned by the Koch’s and the PTB big time. Oh he can give a great speech, but will always do what he is told. Amnesty is BIG money for Corporate interests (like gay “marriage”). If he is ever in position to do so (which he won’t) he’d grant some form of amnesty in a heartbeat.
No.
This could be the best national concealed carry legislation ever written, endorsed by the NRA, GOA and GOD.
If the details were kept secret and if it granted powers to the Executive Branch that belong to the Legislative Branch, then it should be voted down on those merits alone.
Elizabeth Warren and Chuck Schumer would also vote against it....but for different reasons.
You are spinning and stretching to protect Cruz on a bad vote.
If Cruz is our nominee, I would still vote for him. But this vote is troubling.
Ted Cruz/Scott Walker 2016. The nest ticket...do they have flaws, yes, but Jesus is not running...
Ted Cruz/Scott Walker 2016.
Hey Yosemite....are you aware that our state motto is Forward? Get a grip
This is the difference between governors and U.S. senators; a governor’s positions, his record and his accomplishments are more clearly and easily read and understood. Whereas in the Senate, where long shot amendments often represent mere grandstanding when they have no possible chance of advancing, and where votes are fungible and too often stand-ins for accomplishment, or temporarily representative of popular opinion, depending on if a senator even voted (if not that can be purposeful) or if their leadership allowed them to vote one way or the other (because there were enough votes to pass it, or kill it) and their constituents back home wanted it to pass (or to fail) thus the wink-wink vote (because the outcome is already known), to be cited as “bedrock” ideology as questions arise during election time.
He hasn’t even said he was running... but it’s always charming to see liberals ‘care’ so much.../s
Have they asked about Hillary’s weirdness yet?
Yes, Cruz as AG would be an ideal role for him. Then, towards the end of his term, put Cruz on SCOTUS....liberal heads would explode.
With regard to Walker's VP, I do not know. It depends if he wants an active VP, like Cheney, or a dog on a leash, like Biden.
“I was gonna say that the left shows you who they fear...and they fear Walker and Cruz more than anyone else at this point, by a mile...........”
Thanks for the intelligent posting on this thread. We are fortunate to have Crux and Walker in the race. In I will venture to make a further observation which will alarm some folks here. Rubio and Paul also have a lot of good qualities, although Rand Paul is too pacifistic for my comfort zone.
you are guilty of assuming facts not in evidence. The powers you are talking about ceding..you are ASSuming.
FACT: You are 100% ignorant of this bill, Cruz is not, and yet every argument you make is as if the opposite is true. You have written this bill in your imagination, but your brain hasn’t figured out that it’s your fantasy of what the bill is.
I”m not protecting Cruz...like I said, I have no way of knowing whether I would like this bill or not. My only point - and damnit its valid - is that this is not a litmus test big gov small gov conservative liberal issue. It just isn’t. Forget any specific person, this is just not that kind of easy obvious breakdown issue.
If it was, you would have Obama and Warren on the same side. Period, end of discussion, game set match.
I agree, and the funny thing is, on FR these days, one or two Cruz supporters will slam Walker - which I have not done - but virtually every hard core Walker supporter will slam Cruz and his supporters, even though most Cruz supporters have Walker as their second choice at the moment. They even started off this thread on the wrong foot. I like 'em both, Cruz a bit more. I'm proud of both of those stances.
Where can I reference the assertion that Cruz is “owned” by the Kock’s? The last I read, they were supporting Walker.
As for amnesty, the amendment he offered in 2013 is still his position. No Amnesty,no path to citizenship, and temporary legal work permits for those who have not broken other laws.
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