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Oregon to test pay-per-mile idea as replacement for gas tax
My Way ^ | 05/20/15

Posted on 05/20/2015 8:52:09 AM PDT by Enlightened1

Oregon is about to embark on a first-in-the-nation program that aims to charge car owners not for the fuel they use, but for the miles they drive.

The program is meant to help the state raise more revenue to pay for road and bridge projects at a time when money generated from gasoline taxes are declining across the country, in part, because of greater fuel efficiency and the increasing popularity of fuel-efficient, hybrid and electric cars.

Starting July 1, up to 5,000 volunteers in Oregon can sign up to drive with devices that collect data on how much they have driven and where. The volunteers will agree to pay 1.5 cents for each mile traveled on public roads within Oregon, instead of the tax now added when filling up at the pump.

Some electric and hybrid car owners, however, say the new tax would be unfair to them and would discourage purchasing of green vehicles.

"This program targets hybrid and electric vehicles, so it's discriminatory," said Patrick Connor, a Beaverton resident who has been driving an electric car since 2007.

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.myway.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Miscellaneous; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: oregon; permile; tax; test
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I guess they are not getting enough money through gas tax because people are getting better gas mile?

So now they come up with this scam. All the politicians that think this is a good idea should be fired.

1 posted on 05/20/2015 8:52:09 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Enlightened1

5,000 volunteers = 5000 gullible schmucks


2 posted on 05/20/2015 8:55:54 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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And the people of Oregon really think if this scheme is ever implemented the gas tax will be forever repealed?

Apparently some Americans are just begging to be controlled.


3 posted on 05/20/2015 8:58:27 AM PDT by Paulie (America without Christianity is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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To: Enlightened1

States are looking for steady flow of revenue to fund their chop shop bureaucracies.. ie.. slice and dice tax dollars from working people and giving it to illegals and lazy welfare recipients.

Its just one more way to screw more people and get re-elected by the loonies who benefit most from it.


4 posted on 05/20/2015 8:59:09 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (SEMPER FI!! - Monthly Donors Rock!!)
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Lib Pol #1: People aren't driving enough anymore. We're losing tax, uh, revenue.

Lib Pol #2: Let's make driving more costly to them!

Lib Pol #1: Brilliant idea! We'll exempt ourselves, of course.

Lib Pol #2: Or have our per diem for travel expenses increased. We don't want to appear above the masses.

Lib Pol #1: We are so smart that it hurts.
5 posted on 05/20/2015 8:59:40 AM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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Actually gas is more progressive because gas consumption has a direct relationship to torque applied to the road surface thus causing wear and tear. Per mile is totally regressive. Stupid liberals. Why should a compact 1.5 ton car pay the same as a 3-4 ton truck.


6 posted on 05/20/2015 9:01:09 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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But what if you live in Klamath Falls and all those miles were driven in California ??? KF is about 15 miles from the state line..

Or you live in Portland but travel on the roads in Washington state ???

Or you might live in Idaho but cross the Snake River to Huntington, Oregon every day to work Do you have to pay some kind of user tax to OR ???

etc...


7 posted on 05/20/2015 9:01:23 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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“Starting July 1, up to 5,000 volunteers in Oregon can sign up to drive with devices that collect data....”

Step over here you all need a “shower”. Please ignore the smoke and the smell. Everything will be fine.

You can’t make this insanity up.


8 posted on 05/20/2015 9:03:15 AM PDT by LeonardFMason (LanceyHoward would AGREE)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Excellent point. I wonder if there will be a varying tax grade per the size of the vehicle?


9 posted on 05/20/2015 9:05:02 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Enlightened1

So they will eliminate the state fuel tax?


10 posted on 05/20/2015 9:05:14 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature ($1.84 - The price of a gallon of gas on Jan. 20th, 2009.)
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Thirty or more years ago, the price of the annual vehicle registration in Ontario was based in the number of cylinders, the more cylinders, the higher the fee. Of course, everyone was switching to four-bangers from V-8s, so they made it just one price, what it had been for V-8s! Your government, doing to you what can.


11 posted on 05/20/2015 9:05:59 AM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind, but now I see...)
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To: Enlightened1; goodnesswins; PROCON; Twotone; VeryFRank; Clinging Bitterly; Rio; aimhigh; ...

If you would like more information about what's happening in Oregon, please FReepmail me.

I lost my Oregon list when my computer crashed last year, so please send me your name by FReepmail if you want to be on this list.

12 posted on 05/20/2015 9:06:22 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Yep they want to be slaves.

It's no different than a Pimp (feds) and a Hooker (people).

The Hooker says “I love you baby and I'll do ANYTHING for you...”.

The Pimp then just back hands her and says “shut up!...” then punches her and knocks her down. The Hooker then gets back up and says to her Pimp “Yes hit me again baby I love it.”......

And that seems to be the path we are heading down. Hopefully, the American people will wake up.

13 posted on 05/20/2015 9:07:18 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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"Scam" ...

Somebody has to pay for road construction, maintenance, and repair.

That somebody should (IMO) be the people who use the road.

I invite folks here, who do not like the current or proposed methods of raising road construction, maintenance, and repair funds, to propose what they think would be honest, equitable, and non-intrusive methods of collecting those funds.

14 posted on 05/20/2015 9:11:11 AM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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Oregon gas tax is 30 cents a gallon. So basically anyone whose car gets better than 20 miles per gallon will see taxes go up at the 1.5 cents per mile rate. This is a windfall for people with big trucks, cars, and SUVs.


15 posted on 05/20/2015 9:11:39 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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Why should a compact 1.5 ton car pay the same as a 3-4 ton truck.

They won't. They will (and do) have weight classes.

16 posted on 05/20/2015 9:12:23 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: Enlightened1

In the future, I see a LOT of cars in Oregon being registered in Idaho.


17 posted on 05/20/2015 9:13:48 AM PDT by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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Oh, the gas tax will be repealed. It's too visible.

If a state (Washington) can set bridge and road tolls by a commission, they can surely set fee per mile by commission, too. I just wouldn't count on the toll staying at .015. But if the 'commission' says we have to raise the rate, hey, they're the "experts."

Also in Washington State, the state constitution limits gas tax spending to highways and ferries. No such limitation on tolls.

18 posted on 05/20/2015 9:13:50 AM PDT by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the eGOP does not want you.)
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The Bastards!!!


19 posted on 05/20/2015 9:14:20 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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Why don’t they just cut to the chase — a white man driving tax.


20 posted on 05/20/2015 9:15:44 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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