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Oto Melara showcases for the first time its 20 mm Gunship air-to-ground gun system
Air Recognition ^ | 07 May 2015

Posted on 05/08/2015 8:24:28 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

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To: SandRat

One of these mounted on a flatbed with stabilization feet could be a really badboy. Of course the ammo humpers would hate it.


21 posted on 05/09/2015 3:53:03 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: telstar12.5

“want one mounted on roof of my house for perimeter defense”...

I hear in the next housing development start in Baltimore, every new house will come with just that. I still wouldn’t move to Baltimore.


22 posted on 05/09/2015 4:58:50 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

In a similar situation in Ankara, Turkey in the late 60s, the TAF used napalm as well ...


23 posted on 05/09/2015 5:19:46 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: doorgunner69

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk74GgOIWpo

Those on 2 feet dead, those on four, unharmed.


24 posted on 05/09/2015 5:41:35 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Spktyr
it’s the 20mm GE Vulcan design that’s been around for decades

The company that I went to work for right out of college hired the project manager on the Vulcan from GE and I wound up working in his R&D group for several years. He had a scale model of the gun sitting on his desk.

People called him "the little ball of fire", he had a full sized traffic signal set up in the hallway with all the lenses replaced w/ green. He said it represented his "go, go, go" attitude. He handed out tie bars w/ a miniature of the Go Go light to his "untermenchen", I never got one. I always thought the "all green lights" traffic signal was emblematic of one hell of a traffic jam.

Regards,
GtG

25 posted on 05/09/2015 6:15:25 AM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: PIF

That’s Apache footage - 30mm chain gun and Hellfire, not a Vulcan.


26 posted on 05/09/2015 6:42:22 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

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27 posted on 05/09/2015 7:46:56 AM PDT by Steve0113
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To: Spktyr

Then it is misrepresented - if you note the AC says out of ammo and requests continued support - perhaps that was where the 30mm and hellfire came from - an apache on the scene as well.


28 posted on 05/09/2015 9:51:51 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: fella
"One of these mounted on a flatbed with stabilization feet could be a really badboy. Of course the ammo humpers would hate it."

IIRC, the army did have a M-61 mounted on a track some time back. Never saw one in the flesh at Ft Irwin, but saw some photos of one doing a night shoot. Very cool.

Don't know what happened to it, think the aborted antiaircraft gun project was to be the replacement.

There were some cool youtubes of a M-61 shooting incoming mortar rounds recently, some new experimental gear.

29 posted on 05/09/2015 10:26:19 AM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Set a swarm of 100 $39.99 mini drones into the cargo plane’s engines and do the dollar to kill ratio math.


30 posted on 05/09/2015 11:08:16 AM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: PIF

Nope, listen to the sound of the aircraft’s gun when it fires (which is pretty obvious when it does). A Gatling has a distinctive ripping, tearing sound where the Apache’s 30mm chain gun has a dut-dut-dut-dut sound and the rate of fire is much slower, 600-650 round per second versus 1500-4000+. The camera vehicle is an Apache.


31 posted on 05/09/2015 6:15:15 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

Then it is odd that most every AC130 gunship and variant video which uses machine guns makes the same sound (dut-dut-dut-dut). There are a few that have the “ripping, tearing sounds” ... from below: these must have been the AC-130U variants.

here’s various quotes: “AC-130U incorporated a 25mm gun to compliment the standard 40mm cannon and 105mm howitzer.”

“The AC-130H Spectre was armed with two 20 mm M61 Vulcan cannons, one Bofors 40mm autocannon, and one 105 mm M102 cannon; after 1994 the 20 mm cannons were removed for most missions. The upgraded AC-130U “Spooky” has a single 25 mm GAU-12 Equalizer (Gattling-type) in place of the Spectre’s twin 20 mm cannons, an improved fire control system, and increased ammunition capacity. New AC-130Js based on the MC-130J Combat Shadow II special operations tanker were planned as of 2012. The AC-130W is armed with one 30 mm Bushmaster cannon, AGM-176 Griffin missiles, and GBU-39 Small Diameter Bombs.”

From this it would seem there have been various types of machine guns installed over the years and models, but only the AC-130U type seems to be fitted with a Gatling-type gun (removed, as too inaccurate from flying height and replaced with a Bushmaster variant).

So the video link was to an AC-130 firing, just not the older “U” version which had Gatling-type guns.The video likely was the AC-130W variant with the AGM-176 Griffin, Block III missiles, not Hellfires.


32 posted on 05/10/2015 4:21:13 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: PIF

Most ‘AC-130’ videos on YouTube *are* actually from various helicopter gunships. The AC-130 carries literally thousands of rounds for the 40mm and under weapons so they can sit up there a long time without running out of ammo - at one point the aircraft is out of ammo and then somehow doesn’t have anything but missiles left to engage with - an AC-130 would likely still have ammo for other weapons on board and would switch to the 40mm or the 105.

But the easiest way to tell it’s not an AC-130 is the fact that it actually engaged targets that were not on the left side of the aircraft. The AC-130’s guns are all mounted on the port or left side of the aircraft and can only engage to the left. Targets to the front, rear or right side cannot be engaged by the guns of an AC-130.


33 posted on 05/10/2015 11:57:31 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

Forgot to mention with an expected 10-12 meter CEP at angels 10, this setup wouldn’t even be good for go-fast boats.


34 posted on 05/11/2015 12:59:21 PM PDT by GreyHoundSailor
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To: PIF

FWIW that is not an AC-130. It’s an Apache Longbow.


35 posted on 05/11/2015 1:15:57 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: GreyHoundSailor

1. It’s better than no fixed wing gunship.

2. IIRC, that is on par with the AC-130H’s Vulcan cannon.


36 posted on 05/11/2015 2:12:48 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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