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Armenian Genocide Was Not About Muslims Killing Christians
MEMRI ^ | 23/4/15

Posted on 05/04/2015 4:45:15 PM PDT by Eleutheria5

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"My father was a refugee from the massacres, not my grandparents. Every day, my sister and I would hear tales of history first-hand from my father. The thing that bothers and upsets me the most is hearing that it was about Muslims killing Christians. We all fall into the trap of this political propaganda. The murderers are not just after a victim. They want to accomplish a goal. When people are labeled – 'we are Muslims,' 'you are Christians' - it draws more resentful people to become killers, it leads them to sharpen their swords, and it gives new meaning to killing for those who consider setting out on Jihad, on a holy war, or a religious war. When the Ottomans, the forefathers of ISIS, killed the Christians - true, they tortured and killed the Greeks, the Chaldeans, and the Assyrians, but they killed and tortured more Muslims.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: armenian; genocide; isis; paulayacoubian
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Hizbullah is holding my family hostage, and making me repeat this drivel.

1 posted on 05/04/2015 4:45:15 PM PDT by Eleutheria5
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To: Eleutheria5

Nice to know the Ottomans were so even-handed.


2 posted on 05/04/2015 4:50:50 PM PDT by pleasenotcalifornia
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To: Eleutheria5

Perhaps it would be better described as “Muslims Killing Anyone Who Isn’t ‘Muslim Enough’”?


3 posted on 05/04/2015 4:53:19 PM PDT by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Francis)
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Why can’t Muslims ever killer other Muslims for being too Muslim? They are starting to do that in Egypt, but the rest of the Middle East has yet to catch on.


4 posted on 05/04/2015 4:56:57 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5
Armenian Genocide Was Not About Muslims Killing Christians

Right it was about zeppelins being eaten by manatees.....pass me the hookah ach-med I want some of what your smoking.


5 posted on 05/04/2015 5:01:13 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Eleutheria5
Exactly. They know no bounds of behavior. If it advances Islam, it's good. Lie, cheat, loot, rape, plunder, or falsely "assimilate" (or pretend to as best they can) while serving as Trojan horse soldiers waiting in place....it never ends. Their evil and unstopping agenda is just as evil as we are naive and ignorant of constantly repeated lessons from 1,400 years of history.

Compare the length of time it took the Berber/Arab Muslim invading force to invade and subdue Spain, (a few decades) to the time it took Christians from Spain and many volunteers from the rest of Christian Europe to evict them: Eight centuries!!!! It is fatally stupid to go into the fight not understanding precedent after precedent, from Spain to India etc. "Islam has bloody borders." It is like an invasive parasitic superorganism. Mohammed was many times more brilliant (and evil) than Hitler. Hitler was swept out with the trash of the 20th century. Islam just keeps stinging and stinging, going dormant when pushed back, but always virulent and attacking when given the chance by naive dupes and knowing Quisling traitors.

(I write long novels, but I think my effort reaches more in this visual age with image memes, so I make them. It's about reaching people, and lets face it, those of us who adhere to the printed text are growing irrelevant to the process going forward. So I try to kick images over to the low information voters.)

6 posted on 05/04/2015 5:02:10 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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7 posted on 05/04/2015 5:02:49 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Eleutheria5

That right there is some remarkably pure bullsh1t.


8 posted on 05/04/2015 5:08:54 PM PDT by WayneS (Barack Obama makes Neville Chamberlin look like George Patton.)
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She’s Armenian, it seems.


9 posted on 05/04/2015 5:11:08 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5
When the Ottomans, the forefathers of ISIS, killed the Christians - true, they tortured and killed the Greeks, the Chaldeans, and the Assyrians, but they killed and tortured more Muslims.

" ... and Hitler killed more non-Jews than Jews. So there was no genocide, no Holocaust, either of the Jews or the Armenians. I forgot to mention that the Armenians favored the Russians in WW1, which was ... provocative. We were successful business people, so we were envied. We brought it upon ourselves. Now Hezbollah has my family, ... "

The circle of the Stockholm Syndrome is complete.

10 posted on 05/04/2015 5:13:10 PM PDT by Praxeologue ( ')
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Thanks for posting; Well-said.

The universalism of Islam, in its all-embracing creed, is imposed on the believers as a continuous process of warfare, psychological and political, if not strictly military. . . . The Jihad, accordingly, may be stated as a doctrine of a permanent state of war, not continuous fighting.”— Majid Khadduri

“The Quranic Concept of War” - Joseph C. Myers

http://strategicstudiesinstitute.army.mil/pubs/parameters/Articles/06winter/win-ess.pdf


11 posted on 05/04/2015 6:52:45 PM PDT by PGalt
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Indeed. If they are confronted with Communists, they couch their beliefs in Marxism. If they meet lechers, they offer little boys or girls. They morph and adapt, including sending Trojan horse sleepers out to establish the jihad beachheads in secret. That we have to relearn this in 2015 boggles the mind.


12 posted on 05/04/2015 6:58:29 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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If they are confronted with Communists, they couch their beliefs in Marxism. If they meet lechers, they offer little boys or girls. They morph and adapt, including sending Trojan horse sleepers out to establish the jihad beachheads in secret. That we have to relearn this in 2015 boggles the mind.

BUMP!

13 posted on 05/04/2015 7:09:33 PM PDT by PGalt
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When a believer sees that someone is trying to obstruct another believer from traveling the road that leads to God, spirit of Jehad requires that such a man who is imposing obstacles should be prevented from doing so and the obstacles placed by him should also be removed, so that mankind may be freely able to negotiate its own path that leads to Heaven.” To do otherwise, “by not striving to clear or straighten the path we [Muslims] become passive spectators of the counter-initiatory forces imposing a blockade in the way of those who mean to keep their faith with God.19

This viewpoint appears to reflect the classic, collective duty within jihad doctrine, to defend the Islamic community from threats—the concept of defensive jihad. Brohi is saying much more than that; however, he is attempting to delineate the duty—the proactive duty—to clear the path for Islam. It is necessary not only to defend the individual believer if he is being hindered in his faith, but also to remove the obsta- cles of those counter-initiatory forces hindering his Islamic development. This begs the question of what is actually meant by the initiatory forces. The answer is clear to Brohi; the force of initiative is Islam and its Muslim members. “It is the duty of a believer to carry forward the Message of God and to bring it to notice of his fellow-men in handsome ways. But if someone attempts to obstruct him from doing so he is entitled as a matter of defense, to retaliate.”20

p.111 above link


14 posted on 05/04/2015 7:16:14 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Eleutheria5

It’s a cute narrative about what it was not.

However, it leaves no alternate explanation as to the motivation.


15 posted on 05/04/2015 7:58:29 PM PDT by G Larry (Obama Hates America, Israel, Capitalism, Freedom, and Christianity.)
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To: Travis McGee

Obama will explain to you that if only those wasps had better federal funding for babysitting.....


16 posted on 05/04/2015 8:02:31 PM PDT by G Larry (Obama Hates America, Israel, Capitalism, Freedom, and Christianity.)
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Now just a cotton pickin’ minit here. Let’s be fair. There is, so, an alternative explanation. The Ottomans killed and tortured other Muslims because they were self-hating Muslims, another bad thing they learned from the Randoms. Instead of killing and torturing Eastern Christians who got into their clutches, lie they were supposed to, they went and did the same to Muslims, confusing this poor girl of “Armenian descent” even further, though she’s doing a middling good job of being confused on her own.


17 posted on 05/04/2015 10:04:35 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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should be ‘like they were supposed to’


18 posted on 05/04/2015 10:06:50 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Why were so many of them crucified?


19 posted on 05/05/2015 1:24:13 AM PDT by agere_contra (Hamas has dug miles of tunnels - but no bomb-shelters.)
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To: Travis McGee

It is also instructive to note that during the 100 year period of the rein of the Varsity, that they transformed Egypt and the North African Coast from farmland to desert by allowing huge herds of goats to devourer all the vegetation. A legacy we live with today.

This was also the period when slavery was big business by both muslims and non-muslims, a western shame no one today will talk about.

Why We Are Afraid, A 1400 Year Secret
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Qpy0mXg8Y


20 posted on 05/05/2015 6:07:46 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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