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The Navy's Most Shadowy Spy Is 450 Feet Long & Named After Jimmy Carter
Foxtrot Alpha ^ | 04/23/2015 | Tyler Rogoway

Posted on 04/24/2015 6:28:12 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

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To: sukhoi-30mki
its $3B price tag was thought to be too high and its ‘blue water’ sub hunting mission was becoming a secondary priority for the US Navy as the majority of Russia’s submarine fleet was rotting next to a pier.

And when all is said in done, $3billion is about what one F-35 will cost.

21 posted on 04/24/2015 7:13:55 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: hattend

No, the Seawolf and Connecticut are still very much in service.

Altho they’ve been “dissappeared” to the ultra high security Trident SSBN base in Washington. Which is where the Carter (and previous special missions boat Parche) operates from. This was, ostensibly, to help with logistics by basing all three class members at the same location. But it also puts all three in the Pacific and pointed straight at China.


22 posted on 04/24/2015 7:20:26 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: OKSooner
"...they could dive incredibly deep..."

So how deep is that?

Astonishingly and superlatively deep.

23 posted on 04/24/2015 7:24:27 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'll vote for Jeb when Terri Schiavo endorses him.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
SSN Malaise

SSN Hostage

24 posted on 04/24/2015 7:24:27 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: COBOL2Java
"...they could dive incredibly deep..." So how deep is that?

Astonishingly and superlatively deep.

The Bee Gees sang about it--How Deep Is Your Love?

25 posted on 04/24/2015 7:26:43 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Bookmark


26 posted on 04/24/2015 7:38:02 AM PDT by scott0347 (Commander of the 0347th Lancer Brigade, Operator of the Immaculate Steamroller)
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To: Gaffer

think they sold advanced milling equipment, that allowed Russians to produce the complicated prop screws used by subs today. until then Russians had no idea just how noisy their subs were. between the Japanese and the Walker spy family, I heard we could have lost a naval war with the russians back then.


27 posted on 04/24/2015 8:04:35 AM PDT by tm61 (Election 2012: we find it IS possible, to polish a turd.)
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To: tanknetter

Interesting info - thanks.


28 posted on 04/24/2015 8:10:18 AM PDT by Dagnabitt (Islamic Immigration is Treason)
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To: exit82

With a crew of 52 it can stay under water for 444 days.


29 posted on 04/24/2015 8:11:47 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: tanknetter
"Naming the boat after him is somewhat appropriate."

Naming ANY boat after him is HORRIBLY INAPPROPRIATE.

The building of Kings Bay happened ONLY because Carter insisted it be in Georgia. It is a terrible location for a sub base, and our East coast boomers continue to pay a steep price for it.

30 posted on 04/24/2015 8:13:46 AM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: diogenes ghost

Really? Would you mind elaborating on that more?

I thought Kings Bay was built there so that any Soviet SSBN trying to either trail a boomer putting to sea or returning from patrol, or get into the patrol boxes (and I want to point out that I don’t know their location) would have to transit down the US East Coast and past a whole bunch of Navy bases and airfields loaded with ASW assets, plus over a bunch of SOSUS hydrophone farms.


31 posted on 04/24/2015 8:24:24 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: tanknetter

Sorry, Soviet SSN, not SSBN.


32 posted on 04/24/2015 8:25:24 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I feel bad for the guys who had to serve on the “Jimmy Carter.” Gah!


33 posted on 04/24/2015 8:28:49 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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34 posted on 04/24/2015 8:44:46 AM PDT by SparkyBass
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To: hoagy62

Change the name!!
Just reading the article made me sick to think this was named after a traitor who sides with our enemies.


35 posted on 04/24/2015 9:04:35 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: tanknetter
It is a matter of water depth. The continental shelf is far offshore at Kings Bay, meaning the boats must remain exposed on the surface for hours after leaving port before the water is deep enough to dive.

Port Canaveral FL, conversely, enables the boats to dive within five miles of the jetty.

When boats are on the surface, they are pretty helpless, thus the sooner you can dive the better. Kings Bay is just about the worst possible East Coast boomer port location possible.

My son spent 14 years on boomers, and has worked for Dept of Navy at Kings Bay refit facility since then. He primarily works on weapons systems.

I have been on two dependent's cruises, very interesting, but that 5 hour surface transit was horrible...subs are not very seaworthy.

36 posted on 04/24/2015 9:05:18 AM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Apropos name for the sub as they are traditionally named after fish.


37 posted on 04/24/2015 9:40:36 AM PDT by golf lover (goingf)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
With a crew of 52 it can stay under water for 444 days.

Ouch! That left a mark.

38 posted on 04/24/2015 10:21:23 AM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: JayAr36
OK, lets go. What type of ship will be named after Obama?

A Fairy...Oops, ferry, that only turns left.
39 posted on 04/24/2015 10:21:43 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: mcshot

We used to use something like that to lay out a gillenet at night from under a dock. Would make a hell of a purse seiner.


40 posted on 04/24/2015 11:29:40 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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