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Cruz & Walker vs. Bush & Rubio on Amnesty and Immigration
Conservative HQ ^ | April 23, 2015 | George Rasley, CHQ Editor

Posted on 04/23/2015 3:26:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: stanne

If his word isn’t good enough for you, then I’m certain mine won’t be.

A guy that lies to me, is a guy in the hip pocked of the GOPe.

I’m sorry, but that’s my take on it.

Conservatives don’t like. You may not agree with them, but at least they won’t lie.


21 posted on 04/23/2015 5:53:45 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: DoughtyOne

Oh I totally agree with you.

Walker gives no conversion story


22 posted on 04/23/2015 6:08:51 PM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

I had hoped you hadn’t responded yet as I wanted to post an apology before you said anything.

I reread your comments and realized I had taken the wrong tone with you. I am sorry for that.

Your wording coupled with my vision at that moment led me to misinterpret your meaning. I am very sorry for that.

I’m not trying to imply it was your fault. I obliviously think it was written fine, since when I reread it I quickly realized the mistake was all mine.

Your response was more kind that I deserved. Thank you.

It’s nice to know we’re in agreement. I appreciate your initial note.


23 posted on 04/23/2015 6:24:32 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: vmivol00

No, I’m not of a mind to give that a vote of confidence myself.

I suppose it could happen. In this case it didn’t.


24 posted on 04/23/2015 6:26:48 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: DoughtyOne

Oh not a problem.

It was very wordy.

So many people support Walker with no vetting. I should think people have had enough of not vetting people

It truly is like a bad junior prom


25 posted on 04/23/2015 6:28:23 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Erik Latranyi
Disclaimer: I agree with your position, but it will not work in front of an emotional public.

Optics and spin are better than speaking truth to power?

Look, I love Walker, but on immigration he has been all over the board. His latest statements are good, but he's missing that Patton factor.

26 posted on 04/23/2015 6:47:24 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (ANYBODY BUT FRICKING JEB AND HILLARY)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Walker flip flops so much I don’t trust him. He’s probably telling the voters one thing in public, and the Chamber of Commerce something entirely different behind closed doors. Ted Cruz is the best candidate, and it’s not even close.


27 posted on 04/23/2015 6:55:11 PM PDT by JJHLH1
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To: gorush

You had me at Cruz/Walker....


28 posted on 04/23/2015 9:33:00 PM PDT by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Look, I love Walker, but on immigration he has been all over the board. His latest statements are good, but he's missing that Patton factor.

When someone on our side has the "Patton Factor" they are assaulted for being closed-minded and rigid.

They cannot use that against Walker.

Walker can say that he took a line against illegal immigration in Wisconsin to protect taxpayers and enforce the law as best a governor could do. Walker can say he is sympathetic with those who struggle to come to this country and take risks, but he realized that American workers and Americans must come first.

Walker will show how he changed his mind after touring the border states and witnessing the economic damage inflicted on American workers, including immigrants who came here through the proper channels, by the flood of illegals.

We must win the public support to get tough on immigration first. Americans do not favor rounding up and deporting poor people. Liberals love that emotional play on TV.

So, Walker is framing the argument that we must do what is good for American workers first, everyone else second.

Then, if Walker wins the White House, he should put a strong conservative in as Attorney General. This is where Ted Cruz would shine! He could dismantle the ATF, reform the FBI and actually enforce our border laws...strongly!

They could send a message to the states that the federal gov't will work with local law enforcement to deport illegals who commit crimes.

It could turn the entire issue around on the liberals.

29 posted on 04/24/2015 4:00:57 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Hillary is the most qualified candidate to finish the destruction of this nation.)
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To: Parmenio; ColdOne; Yossarian; knittnmom; sf4dubya; Mr. Peabody; wally_bert; dowcaet; ...
H-1B ping. Let me know if you want to be added to this list (or removed).
30 posted on 04/24/2015 8:01:09 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: stanne
Question - Is the H 1B program so many want to tag Cruz with unconstitutional?

I don't think so; why do you ask? The problem with H-1B is that it's bad for American workers.

31 posted on 04/24/2015 8:03:57 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

Well, as we have seen, managing the workers is secondary at least, to constitutional protection and defense which are the concern of the president

If what he’s suggesting is not unconstitutional I can’t be as concerned as I am with illegal imm


32 posted on 04/24/2015 8:52:49 AM PDT by stanne
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To: DoughtyOne; stanne

“A guy that lies to me, is a guy in the hip pocket of the GOPe.”

NAILED.

No second chances. 2nd chances fail 100% of the time, as my tagline proves.


33 posted on 04/24/2015 8:59:01 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: stanne; DoughtyOne

” So many people support Walker with no vetting. I should think people have had enough of not vetting people”

I have posted the background on Walker repeatedly, and I’m done doing it.


34 posted on 04/24/2015 9:01:21 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Hmm. Haven’t seen anything but ‘oh it’s well known. If you don’t know I’m not going to tell you’

Not good enough at all


35 posted on 04/24/2015 9:14:27 AM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne; DoughtyOne

http://www.redstate.com/diary/freedomrepublican/2015/03/09/12-reasons-why-conservatives-should-reject-scott-walker/

Plenty more where this came from.

Do some work yourself, okay?


36 posted on 04/24/2015 9:50:49 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: stanne

Thank you Stanne. I agree. It is so strange to watch people trash the Clintons and Obama for lying, expressing no understanding how anyone could vote for a liar like them, and then jump in to support our own liar. It’s beneath contemptible.

It is like a bad junior prom. I’m looking for the braces...


37 posted on 04/24/2015 10:59:59 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Yep, agreed...


38 posted on 04/24/2015 11:21:48 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Would you mind linking me in to that if you have the ability to find one of those posts without too much effort?

I’d like to see what you had to say.


39 posted on 04/24/2015 11:22:38 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Thanks for the link.

As I suspected, Walker is not a Conservative in his gut.

He has done some good things, and I believe in giving credit when people do good things. Walker is no exception there.

I do not like it when a man does ‘some’ good things, and then tries to use them to convince the public he’s someone he’s not.

His downright lie that his immigration policy has changed is beneath contempt. Trying to capitalize on that smoke and mirrors lie, is not any better than a lie from Obama or the Clintons.

This guy is not the real deal.


40 posted on 04/24/2015 11:31:12 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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