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To: Red Badger; dware; TomGuy; CapnJack; who_would_fardels_bear; Slyfox; MarchonDC09122009
For those who think the Article V process is too risky, I ask, "What other options do you see?"

To summarize from a previous post by GraceG:

1. Elect More Republicans - Failed due to RINO/Uni-party confluence.

2. Article V Convention of States to propose Amendments - Needed to try to take power from the federal government back to the states and reel in the federal leviathan.

3. State Nullification - Last ditch effort to try to take power back from the federal monster, though by this point it may be too late.

4. State Secession - Could either end up peaceably like the breakup of the Czechoslovakia in 1993 or a brutal:

5. Civil War II like the first one.... The longer we wait on #2, the more likely #3, then #4 and finally #5. .

So, do we do nothing and just wait for # 5?

Quick review: We need 34 states to pass an application, then Congress shall, by law, call a Convention of States as soon as it receives applications from 2/3 of the State Legislatures. That's 34 states. We now have 30 working on it. Amendments are proposed and voted on at the convention. Each Amendment must be ratified by ¾ of the states in order to become part of the US Constitution. That’s 38 states.

“There are far more political and legal constraints on a runaway convention than on a runaway Congress.” - Robert Natelson

Most FReepers are aware of these links, but I post anyway for review and for people new to Article V. It is our responsibility to make Article V the most understood aspect of the US Constitution.

****Please see this summary video from Alabama first: Convention of States - Alabama Way to go Alabama! A great introduction!

Rep. Bill Taylor introduces a Convention of States

Convention of States Live! with Mike Farris

The Case for an Article V Convention. Great explanation of an Article V convention to the Massachusetts State Legislature.

**** Convention of States Lots of information here.

Call a Convention A call for a Convention of States

Article V Project to Restore Liberty Another good source.

Convention of States model Resolution

A Summary of Mark Levin’s Proposed Amendments by Jacquerie

Chapter 1 of Mark Levin’s Book, The Liberty Amendments

Mark Levin, Constitution Article V, and the Liberty Amendments

Mark Levin: “The Liberty Amendments” - Complete Sean Hannity Special + other Links

List of Mark Levin You Tube Videos

Mark Levin Article V, Liberty Amendments youtube video hub

Three hour video of C-Span interview with Mark Levin

*** Mark Levin’s ALEC Speech, Dec 4, 2014

Gaining Steam? Nearly 100 Lawmakers Descend on Mount Vernon to Talk Convention of States The beginning.

Mark Levin’s “Liberty Amendments” Sean Hannity Special

We can fight the uniparty! States, the Natural Second Party by Jacquerie

Convention to Propose Amendments to the United States Constitution

The Other Way to Amend the Constitution: The Article V Constitutional Convention Amendment Process

Amendment Booklet.pdf

Friends of Article V Convention Links

Congress’ Present Duty to Call a Convention:

Congress’ Present Duty to Call a Convention. (Part I)

Congress’ Present Duty to Call a convention. (Part II)

Congress’ Present Duty to Call a Convention. (Part III)

Congress’ Present Duty to Call a Convention. (Part IV)

Congress’ Present Duty to Call a Convention. (Part V)

Congress’ Failure to Call an Amendments Convention. (Part VI)

Ulysses at the Mast: Democracy, Federalism, and the Sirens' Song of the Seventeenth Amendment by Jay Bybee. Repeal the 17th ! Shorter Abstract here: Ulysses at the Mast, one page Abstract

****For those of you that still have doubts about the Article V process, please review: Responses To Convention Of States Opposition My initial concerns were resolved after reading these articles. My attitude now is Go For It!

Sarah Palin: Debunking the myths of a Convention of States

A Single-Subject Convention Addresses the “runaway convention” fear.

Update: Convention of States by the numbers The current State count

Convention of States Gaining Momentum

Article V Latest News

Article V Handbook - for State Legislators An important resource.

**** State Legislators Article V Caucus State Legislators, Join up at this site!

Most State Legislatures are in session now. Send this list of links to your State Representatives and Senators here: Contact your State Legislators.

Sample Letter to state Representatives regarding the Convention of States Project and also, Talking Points.

Excellent Article V Letter to a State Assemblyman by Jacquerie

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." - Edmund Burke.

Let’s all work together to get this going!

15 posted on 04/22/2015 11:41:25 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Art in Idaho
"What other options do you see?"

Well, I would say that we need to begin enforcing what laws we have now. That would be a great first start. We have lots of laws on the books now, many of which directly apply to the power grab by FedGov, but we are ignoring them, and are more excited about passing more laws.

20 posted on 04/22/2015 11:52:19 AM PDT by dware (The GOP is dead. Long live Conservatism.)
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To: Art in Idaho
I'm in favor of a convention of the states, not because I think it will work, but because it will at least shake things up and get the public focused on civics for a little while.

The main reason conservatives are asking for a convention of the states, whatever claims they make to the contrary, is that they believe that since right now a majority of states are right-leaning Republican we can get what we want through the states more easily than the RINO-led congress.

The same thinking was behind the Republican support of imperial presidents, i.e. we didn't have the votes in congress but we had the Whitehouse, so give more power to the Whitehouse.

An Article V convention might just work. It may be the case that regardless of what amendments get passed in the convention, only conservative ones will get the OK of 3/4ths of the states.

But then just as Obama took on the imperial powers granted to him by a prior Republican administration, some future Article V convention in a US where the majority of state legislatures are run by Democrats will be able to overturn what any previous Article V convention had accomplished and turn this country more forcefully toward socialism.

Still it's worth the gamble, the excitement, and the educational opportunities it would afford.

Let's all take the red pill for once!


27 posted on 04/22/2015 12:57:56 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Art in Idaho

Who do you think is going to be appointing the delegates to a convention?

That same RINO/Uni-party confluence at the state level.

Then, who will be voting on the amendments from said convention?

It will not be the citizenry. Instead, it will be that same RINO/Uni-party confluence at the state level.

Political parties in states that do not play along will lose political donations from the national party and quite possibly retribution via entitlements and future Federal government contracts.

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The so-called Tea Party elements of the Republican party have had 2 opportunities to de-seat Boehner -- 2012 and 2014. They failed both times because members folded and capitulated.

What makes anyone think a similar Republican delegation will not do the same behind closed doors of a Constitutional Convention?

Part of McConnell's sales pitch for a Republican Senate Majority was that they would prove they could lead -- unlike the last majority under Frist/Lott.

Do you trust McConnell now?

I don't trust any of them -- and especially not with them behind closed doors tinkering with The Bill of Rights. It is already hanging by a thread. They will be cutting the final strands.
31 posted on 04/22/2015 2:23:54 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Art in Idaho

here is a link directly addressing the JBS for your list
http://www.conventionofstates.com/john_birch_society_denies_history?utm_source=Convention+of+States+Project&utm_campaign=a0d0d5de5e-COS_Weekly_Roundup_4_15_2015&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_45196125c1-a0d0d5de5e-214850825


36 posted on 04/29/2015 7:39:45 AM PDT by GILTN1stborn ( #rememberbenghazi #extortion17 #impeachobama)
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