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Ultra-fast charging aluminum battery offers safe alternative to conventional batteries
Phys.Org ^ | 04/06/2015 | Provided by Stanford University

Posted on 04/06/2015 1:10:36 PM PDT by Red Badger

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To: reg45

You’d need a pretty fat wire. The battery would no longer be the weak link in the chain, exposing other weak links.


21 posted on 04/06/2015 1:28:38 PM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: TexasGator

Check out your car battery .... (count the cells).


Exactly. ;-)


22 posted on 04/06/2015 1:29:28 PM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: cuban leaf

“You’d need a pretty fat wire. The battery would no longer be the weak link in the chain, exposing other weak links.”

Tesla fast charge is 170 miles in 30 minutes.


23 posted on 04/06/2015 1:34:59 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: reg45

How much energy do you have to put thru the charger to accomplish that?

How much voltage would you need?


24 posted on 04/06/2015 1:35:53 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: TexasGator

Tesla fast charge is 170 miles in 30 minutes.


Yes, at a station specifically set up for it. I don’t think it will work at home.


25 posted on 04/06/2015 1:40:26 PM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: cuban leaf

Tesla Home Fast Charge Parameters:

Breaker rating will determine charge time. The Roadster can draw 80% of the Breaker Amperage.

Breaker Rating (Amps):(Amps) Approximate:Charge Time (hours)
90 70 4
80 64 4.2
70 56 4.7
60 48 5
50 40 6


26 posted on 04/06/2015 1:45:04 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Red Badger

“”We accidentally discovered that a simple solution is to use graphite, which is basically carbon.”

Well, there’s the problem right there. It uses carbon and everyone knows carbon is evil.


27 posted on 04/06/2015 1:47:21 PM PDT by ModelBreaker (')
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To: Red Badger

WHOEVER has the courage to invest in this tech....could eat the other battery companies alive and in very short order

I see an IPO....to break all IPO records!!

given their light weight...one could seemingly have a 100 amp hour battery that takes up less space and weighs less than an iphone

sign me UP!


28 posted on 04/06/2015 1:52:07 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: Red Badger

Me thinks, the first long distance electric cars powered by this battery, will appear in the country of Hongjie Dai’s ancestry. In the mean time, Audi has a 600 mile electric car ready to go.


29 posted on 04/06/2015 1:58:38 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (2016 The RNC better come up with a Winner this time. Run some one like Cruz and Go for Broke!)
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To: Little Pig
Probably a stupid question, but given the recent excitement over graphENE, I wonder if they’ve looked at that vs. graphITE?

Graphene is only able to be produced in microscopic amounts and is as yet hugely expensive.

30 posted on 04/06/2015 2:09:02 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: TexasGator
"a negatively charged anode made of aluminum and a positively charged cathode."

I wonder what would happen if these batteries discharged completely under load. Aluminum and Graphite are on the opposite side of the galvanic series, with a significant potential difference. In nature, aluminum is the anode and graphite is the cathode. Granted, under anodic control aluminum does tend to passivate. Passivation would increase the internal resistance of a battery.

Would like to see the patent when it is filed. Graphite is currently used as anodes in impressed current cathodic protection systems, whereas aluminum is used as a galvanic anode in offshore applications.
31 posted on 04/06/2015 2:12:13 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: reg45

I’ve always thot a quick change battery pack was the slick way to go. Drive into the battery station and park the empty battery on a rack. The empty can take as long as it wants to recharge. Carousel swings a fresh pack into place and you’re on your way. Works with industrial gas. No one waits for their oxy, acetyl, etc. bottles to be refilled. We just swap empties for fulls. Couldn’d be faster.


32 posted on 04/06/2015 2:47:26 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: Red Badger

This intriguing article omits one fact we all want to know - what is the energy density? In other words, how many watt/hours can be stored in a pound of battery?


33 posted on 04/06/2015 2:55:48 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: TexasGator

Liquid fuel recharge is at least 350 miles in less than 5 minutes. Liquid fuel may safely be stored in inexpensive containers.

I mention this so that people don’t lose track of standards.


34 posted on 04/06/2015 2:59:05 PM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: Gamecock

LOL! Kramer!


35 posted on 04/06/2015 2:59:22 PM PDT by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, wasn't there!)
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To: MeshugeMikey

[[I want one configured for my Canon DSLR]]

Me too- my batter cost over $150


36 posted on 04/06/2015 3:04:51 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: Red Badger

Stanford University scientists have invented the first high-performance aluminum battery that’s fast-charging, long-lasting and inexpensive.

...

Really? Where can I buy this wondrous inexpensive battery?


37 posted on 04/06/2015 3:05:48 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: TexasRepublic
how many watt/hours can be stored in a pound of battery?

That question may still be up for grabs considering that we're still in prototype mode.

38 posted on 04/06/2015 3:08:40 PM PDT by expat_panama
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To: Little Pig

Probably a stupid question, but given the recent excitement over graphENE

...

There’s been incredible excitement over graphene for more than a decade. It provides plenty of money for researches, but close to zero commercial products.


39 posted on 04/06/2015 3:09:00 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Bob434

I remember when I was looking for a extra battery for my 5DII...on ebay..and amazon.

Due to the fine video available from that camera and the extreme demands of video on battery “life” per charge...there were.... ..a total of 2 such batteries available at anywhere near retail price..


40 posted on 04/06/2015 3:13:52 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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