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Bigotry, the Bible and the Lessons of Indiana (LGBT Totalitarianism)
NY Times ^ | April 3, 2015 | Frank Bruni

Posted on 04/04/2015 11:13:30 AM PDT by C19fan

THE drama in Indiana last week and the larger debate over so-called religious freedom laws in other states portray homosexuality and devout Christianity as forces in fierce collision.

They’re not — at least not in several prominent denominations, which have come to a new understanding of what the Bible does and doesn’t decree, of what people can and cannot divine in regard to God’s will.

And homosexuality and Christianity don’t have to be in conflict in any church anywhere.

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KEYWORDS: freedom; homosexualagenda; lgbt; religious
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So our debate about religious freedom should include a conversation about freeing religions and religious people from prejudices that they needn’t cling to and can indeed jettison, much as they’ve jettisoned other aspects of their faith’s history, rightly bowing to the enlightenments of modernity.

The mask of the so called tolerance of the LGBT movement is falling away to expose the totalitarianism underneath. Robespierre, Marx, Lenin, Stalin, and Mao approve of Mr. Bruni's message.

1 posted on 04/04/2015 11:13:30 AM PDT by C19fan
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” Robespierre, Marx, Lenin, Stalin, and Mao approve of Mr. Bruni’s message. “

I didn’t even bother to read it. I knew you would tell us the truth : )


2 posted on 04/04/2015 11:15:40 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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Those who hate the Bible are indeed bigots.


3 posted on 04/04/2015 11:18:17 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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>>Money quote:
>>>So our debate about religious freedom should include a conversation about freeing religions and religious people from prejudices that they needn’t cling to and can indeed jettison, much as they’ve jettisoned other aspects of their faith’s history, rightly bowing to the enlightenments of modernity.

I hope they are having this “conversation” with Islam. But they won’t because they see Islam as the destroyer of their common enemy, Christianity.


4 posted on 04/04/2015 11:18:37 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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Rush blew these deviants out of the pool yesterday when he pointed out, quite accurately, that the degeneracy cabal doesn't go after Islamic ‘bigotry’ when it happens, like in Michigan recently. That proves these staged scenes are not about ‘gay rights’ or ‘equality’, they are clearly about attacking Christians and Christianity because the degenerates know Christians do not slice heads off for affronteries.
5 posted on 04/04/2015 11:19:14 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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. . . new understanding of what the Bible does and doesn’t decree . . .

Just drop that pesky word not from the 10 commandments, and you have the Episcopal Church and the Presbyterian Church USA taking the moral high ground.

6 posted on 04/04/2015 11:20:17 AM PDT by madprof98
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Those who love man and man’s words greater than God and His Word are making a grave error.


7 posted on 04/04/2015 11:21:06 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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Faggies rule! And that’s the way it is for the other 98%.


8 posted on 04/04/2015 11:21:07 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("O Muslim! My bullets are dipped in pig grease.")
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A prostitute comes to my bakery

She wants a Valentine cake with a "busy" threesome atop...Can I refuse?

Absolutely no difference between this and two fags holding hands atop the cake since their "acts" are inferred.

9 posted on 04/04/2015 11:21:58 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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They’re not — at least not in several prominent denominations, which have come to a new understanding of what the Bible does and doesn’t decree, of what people can and cannot divine in regard to God’s will.
And homosexuality and Christianity don’t have to be in conflict in any church anywhere.

"For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires..." (2 Timothy 4:3)"

10 posted on 04/04/2015 11:21:59 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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every picture tells a story/

what is this image of Frankie and friend?...saying




11 posted on 04/04/2015 11:25:33 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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Sheep or Goat?
No, I’m not talking about your prefered sex parter.


12 posted on 04/04/2015 11:25:41 AM PDT by right way right
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forcing everyone to agree with them is the new “freedom”


13 posted on 04/04/2015 11:29:51 AM PDT by GeronL (CLEARLY CRUZ 2016)
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I find it interesting how the Church is eliminating all ability to be a light in the world and a unique institution that is called to proclaim the Gospel of Jesus Christ and the catalyst that binds us together with the Ouse of Israel. No longer are we “grafted in” to the house of Israel, and no longer is our message repentance, regeneration and salvation. Now it’s just a club house where people go to tell God how they want the Church to act, and tell God what message they will bring, and that God is outdated and irrelevant.

The early Church were believers who went house to house, breaking bread, studying the word, praying together and praising G_D together and taking care of each other. I do believe in order to keep from being led captive by the Evil One, we must go back to the first Church, and look to G_D for mercy and love and quit looking at the world, the government, the militant gays and the sinful pastors who no longer serve G_D, they serve mammon.

We cannot allow homosexuality, homosexual marriage and homosexual relationships to rule the Church of Jesus Christ. G_Ds word is clear. A little leaven ruins the whole loaf. And Paul was clear in Romans 1 the perils of allowing Sin to rule instead of G_D.

Some may call me old fashioned, but G_D Who created the entire universe is the most progressive One I want to follow.


14 posted on 04/04/2015 11:30:55 AM PDT by realcleanguy
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I'd say the Bible is pretty clear...

Leviticus 18:22 - Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it [is] abomination.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 - Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind

Romans 1:26-28 - For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

I'd say the Bible is pretty clear when it comes to the homos. Any "Church" that teaches the "politically correct" version just might be one of the apostate churches the Christian were warned about and told to avoid.

15 posted on 04/04/2015 11:32:16 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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No barf alert?


16 posted on 04/04/2015 11:32:57 AM PDT by MNDude
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I read through his screed and it was fun spotting all the clichés. “”moving beyond”, “moved on from”, “ancient texts”, etc. It was kind of like reading bad literature.

“It was a dark and stormy night.”


17 posted on 04/04/2015 11:40:25 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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No barf alert?

Seriously. The Holy Church of the NY TIMES? Will they be demanding a tax exemption next for teaching us the new and improved politically correct version of God?

18 posted on 04/04/2015 11:44:36 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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The healthy portion of society is unorganized and lacks the will to fight Social pathology. "There comes a time in the history of every people where they become so pathologically soft and tender that they actually side with those elements of their society that harms the,; i.e. criminals."-F. Nietzsche.

That the Sodomite is in fact part of the criminal element of our society is evidenced by the statutes and cases of centuries of the Common Law. The analysis of the real judges is sufficient.

19 posted on 04/04/2015 11:49:12 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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The so-called “gays” ... have been in the process of taking over society for most of my life.

My initial “first-hand observation” of this and how they affect society in every way ... was a real simple one ... and a sort of subtle observation, but the message was “clear”.

When I was in high school in Lake Oswego, Oregon, there was a men’s clothing store there in the small downtown area, selling good and upscale clothes to those who like to dress nicely. It was called “The Gay Blade”.

And back in my high school days, there was nothing unseemly about that name. BUT, within a few years after high school, that store - one day - suddenly changed it’s name without notice or fanfare ... to ... “The Blade”

By that time, I knew WHY they did that, even though prior to that, and during my high school years, that store was never thought of in an unseemly way!

The “Gay Agenda” has been working its way through our society in many different ways ... from the very simple to the much more organized and more sinister ways ... and it has never stopped progressing with that agenda for these many decades!


20 posted on 04/04/2015 11:53:22 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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