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Fraud Starts to Take a Bite Out of Apple Pay
WSJ Online ^ | March 3, 2015 7:59 p.m. ET | DAISUKE WAKABAYASHI and ROBIN SIDEL

Posted on 03/04/2015 8:14:33 AM PST by 11th Commandment

It didn’t take long for fraud to find its way to Apple Pay.

Some banks are witnessing a growing incidence of fraud on Apple Inc.’s mobile-payment service as criminals exploit vulnerabilities ......

The problem was brought to light in late February ..by Cherian Abraham, ..... He said fraud “is growing like a weed, and the bank is unable to tell friend from foe.”

Mr. Abraham said it isn’t “an anomaly” for fraud to account for about 6% of Apple Pay transactions, compared with about 0.1% on transactions that involve swiping a credit card.

Banks pay Apple 0.15% of every transaction made on Apple Pay, a concession that the company won by persuading them that its payments service was more secure than the conventional credit-card swipe.

(Excerpt) Read more at wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: applepay
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Sounds like a good deal for merchants, pay .15% to have fraud increase 6000%.
1 posted on 03/04/2015 8:14:33 AM PST by 11th Commandment
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To: 11th Commandment

Another Apple Fail.

Steve Jobs just rolled over again.


2 posted on 03/04/2015 8:19:20 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: 11th Commandment

Hodar you might be interested in this article.


3 posted on 03/04/2015 8:19:23 AM PST by zlala (Thank you for the ultimate sacrifice Capt. Aaron R. Blanchard, KIA 4-23-13, Pul-E-Alam, Afghanistan.)
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To: 11th Commandment

This fraud is really an issue with a percentage of the participating banks and how they “validate” the customer’s account when they set up that bank’s Apple Pay “credential”. The banks with this insufficient user validation will quickly fix their processes since they are the ones being hit by this organized crime fraud.


4 posted on 03/04/2015 8:21:19 AM PST by House Atreides (CRUZ or lose!)
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To: 11th Commandment

“Apple Pay: Only Sixty Times More Fraudulent Than Credit Card Swiping. Get Yours Today!”


5 posted on 03/04/2015 8:22:00 AM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: 11th Commandment
....it isn’t “an anomaly” for fraud to account for about 6% of Apple Pay transactions, compared with about 0.1% on transactions that involve swiping a credit card.

I saw this coming when I watched the first advertisement for the service. If someone can hack Jennifer Lawrence's phone for nude pictures, they can hack your phone for the stored image and authorization codes for your credit card.

6 posted on 03/04/2015 8:22:47 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

“Another Apple Fail....”
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IMHO you are not comprehending the problem. It’s a problem with certain participating banks and not with Apple or Apple Pay.


7 posted on 03/04/2015 8:22:48 AM PST by House Atreides (CRUZ or lose!)
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To: Alex Murphy

“...If someone can hack Jennifer Lawrence’s phone for nude pictures, they can hack your phone for the stored image and authorization codes for your credit card.”
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You also are not comprehending the problem. The fraudsters are not “hacking someone’s phone for data”; they are defrauding the banks directly using iPhones owned by the fraudsters.


8 posted on 03/04/2015 8:25:39 AM PST by House Atreides (CRUZ or lose!)
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To: House Atreides; ImJustAnotherOkie
Apple's mistake is the fraud prevention is not only in technology but in training and usage. A merchant who pays for fraud prevention expects not only good tech, but a good roll-out.

Also, Merchants need to do math. They are paying APPLE .15% to reduce fraud which is only occurs in .1% of transactions with swiped cards(?)

9 posted on 03/04/2015 8:31:02 AM PST by 11th Commandment ("THOSE WHO TIRE LOSE")
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To: 11th Commandment

This story is FUD

The Apple gang said Apple Pay was fraud proof.

Who can dispute blind fanatics? Certainly not reality!


10 posted on 03/04/2015 8:34:44 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: House Atreides

I figure apple has so much money they own the banks.


11 posted on 03/04/2015 8:40:08 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: 11th Commandment

Another Apple bright, shiny, “elegant” solution sold with much hype and highly overpriced.

“We’re fraud proof” and hyping foolproof security is bleeding in front of sharks. An open invitation for hackers and criminals to prove them wrong and shove it up Apple’s collective ass.

Computers for dummies, fraud prevention for the weak minded by telling them you don’t have to know anything, Apple will tell you what you need, you believe us when we say we’re secure and you have to live by Apple rules.


12 posted on 03/04/2015 8:50:51 AM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Swordmaker

ping...


13 posted on 03/04/2015 8:59:09 AM PST by IncPen (None of this would be happening if John Boehner were alive...)
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To: 11th Commandment; Swordmaker

“...Merchants need to do math. They are paying APPLE .15% to reduce fraud which is only occurs in .1% of transactions with swiped cards(?)”
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You don’t understand Apple Pay. The merchants don’t pay Apple anything. The card-issuing banks have agreed to pay a per-transaction fee to Apple and the banks get that from the fee they have always charged the merchants for the use of their card on the transaction. So the use of Apple Pay has not increased the cost of either the merchant or the customer using the card.


14 posted on 03/04/2015 9:03:46 AM PST by House Atreides (CRUZ or lose!)
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To: 11th Commandment

Maybe the problem is with NFC. Sticking something in something will always be better than just getting close.


15 posted on 03/04/2015 9:30:57 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

The article says what the problem is - criminals are using stolen credit card numbers, authorizing a phone to make purchases, the buying stuff. The weakness is in allowing stolen cards to be authorized, not at the point of purchase. Basically Apple pay has replaced creating fake cards with stolen numbers.


16 posted on 03/04/2015 9:33:56 AM PST by Wayne07
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To: expat_panama

Might not get an iPhone after all.


17 posted on 03/04/2015 9:40:24 AM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (It's a shame nobama truly doesn't care about any of this. Our country, our future, he doesn't care)
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To: House Atreides

Ok- then banks need to do the math..


18 posted on 03/04/2015 9:56:29 AM PST by 11th Commandment ("THOSE WHO TIRE LOSE")
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

Wondered how long it’d take for us to hear these stories. Thing is that there is absolutely no mode of transaction that’s 1,000% foolproof, there’ll always be a way to sneak thru a scam. Doesn’t make iPhone good or bad, but it just makes it not that much better than what we already got.


19 posted on 03/04/2015 10:00:10 AM PST by expat_panama
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

“Maybe the problem is with NFC. Sticking something in something will always be better than just getting close.”
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That’s what my wife always tells me.


20 posted on 03/04/2015 10:11:23 AM PST by House Atreides (CRUZ or lose!)
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