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Why Ted Cruz is constitutionally qualified to be president
American Thinker ^ | March 3, 2015 | Pedro Gonzales

Posted on 03/03/2015 5:44:58 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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Although Bibi Netanyahu was born in Israel, he was an American citizen at birth as his mother was an American citizen. He grew up in in Pennsylvania, graduated from high school there, and then earned a degree from MIT. Israeli law states that in order to serve in the Knesset, a member cannot hold dual citizenship, and Netanyahu then gave up his American citizenship; however, according to my quick, by no means exhaustive research, under American law Bibi is still an American citizen.


41 posted on 03/03/2015 9:11:01 PM PST by erkelly
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To: South Dakota

Ted Cruz for President! ;-)


42 posted on 03/03/2015 9:30:00 PM PST by BreezyDog
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To: erkelly
“Netanyahu then gave up his American citizenship; however, according to my quick, by no means exhaustive research, under American law Bibi is still an American citizen.”

No, giving up his American citizenship means he is no longer an American citizen. He had to give up American citizenship in order to have allegiance to only one country, Israel, so he could run for an office in Israel that required allegiance to only that country.

Cruz was an American citizen at birth due to his mother being an American citizen; he was a natural born citizen. He had dual citizenship, Canadian and American. He has given up his Canadian citizenship so he has only one allegiance, that being to the United States.

My grandson was born in London to an English mother and American father. He was issued an American passport on the day of his birth, was a natural born American citizen and a citizen of Britain - dual citizenship. He could run for office in England that required allegiance to only that country by giving up his American citizenship. He could run for office in America that required allegiance to only one country by giving up his British citizenship.

If Cruz runs for president, this will be the first issue brought up and resolved as I have just explained.

A person who is not a natural born citizen is one who has to apply for citizenship and go through the legal process to become a naturalized citizen.

You know, like a citizen of Mexico has to apply for citizenship and go through that legal process to become a naturalized citizen and ALL citizens of Mexico who want to come here go through that process - if they didn't, like maybe they swam the river or climbed over a fence to get here, they would be ILLEGAL. Obama is sure they are all legal so he will accept all those swimmers and climbers over the fence.

43 posted on 03/03/2015 9:42:05 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: BreezyDog

Ted Cruz for prime minister. Walker for President


44 posted on 03/04/2015 3:51:18 AM PST by South Dakota (shut up and build a bakken pipe line)
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To: philman_36
Yes, they were still dead in 1787.

I know that Jefferson qualified since he was a citizen of the US when the Constitution was adopted (1788), but someone raised the point about both parents being citizens of the US. Washington's father, Adams' father, Monroe's father, and Jackson's father all died before the Declaration of Independence, as did Monroe's mother. Jackson's mother died in 1781.

45 posted on 03/04/2015 6:20:31 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: South Dakota
Ted Cruz for prime minister. Walker for President

Ummmmm...America doesn't have a prime minister position.

Are you a foreigner?

46 posted on 03/04/2015 6:31:03 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Verginius Rufus; ricmc2175
...but someone raised the point about both parents being citizens of the US.

You responded to this reply...http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3263869/posts?page=10#10...and apparently to this in particular...
Natural born citizen would have been born on the soil of the country and have both parents as citizens.

Your reply ...Both of Thomas Jefferson’s parents died before the adoption of the Declaration of Independence, so they were not citizens of the United States.
...seemed flippant and uninformed so I merely attempted to inform you. Judging by your informed reply at #45...well, I don't know what you were doing.

47 posted on 03/04/2015 6:43:20 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

No, but Ted Cruz is


48 posted on 03/04/2015 6:44:00 AM PST by South Dakota (shut up and build a bakken pipe line)
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To: South Dakota
No, but Ted Cruz is

And what, exactly, do you base your assertion upon?

Not being confrontational, just wanting clarification.

49 posted on 03/04/2015 6:47:11 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: South Dakota
So why in the world did you even bring up "Ted Cruz for prime minister" when you should know that position doesn't exist in our government?

An attempt at humor? You failed.

50 posted on 03/04/2015 6:49:38 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Verginius Rufus

Which is why that Constitutional Article was written to exempt the Founders.


51 posted on 03/04/2015 6:56:42 AM PST by ricmc2175
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To: Perdogg

US Constitution Article II Section 1 is not in the Constitution?


52 posted on 03/04/2015 6:59:30 AM PST by ricmc2175
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To: philman_36

In your opinion I failed
Cruz was a citizen of Canada.
Canada has a Prime minister.
This is not funny to me.
Cruz is not eligible to be President but he could have been Canada’s. Prime minister.


53 posted on 03/04/2015 7:10:59 AM PST by South Dakota (shut up and build a bakken pipe line)
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Cruz was a citizen of Canada.

Well Obama was a citizen of the UK/Kenya as well through his Father and that doesn't seem to have stopped him.
State Dept. confirms Obama dual citizen
However, in the attempt to debunk the Obama birth-certificate controversy, the State Department author confirmed Obama was a dual citizen of the U.K. and the U.S. from 1961 to 1963 and a dual citizen of Kenya and the U.S. from 1963 to 1982, because his father was a Kenyan citizen when Obama was born in 1961.

What is the difference?

Cruz is not eligible to be President...
Once again...And what, exactly, do you base your assertion upon?

54 posted on 03/04/2015 7:25:17 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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Happersett v minor

http://www.thenationalpatriot.com/2011/11/13/u-s-supreme-court-has-ruled-on-obamas-eligability/


55 posted on 03/04/2015 7:53:32 AM PST by South Dakota (shut up and build a bakken pipe line)
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Ted Cruz is like Winston Churchill. Both are/were imbued with inspirational patriotism and both were/are articulate promoters of conservatism.

Both men were born in foreign countries to a foreign father and an American mother.

Both men were born with the citizenship rights of their father, their mother and the land of their birth.

Winston Churchill went on to become a great patriot and prime minister of the land of his birth and an honorary citizen of his mother's country.

Ted Cruz went on to become a great patriot and ... (er, ah, wait a minute...)

56 posted on 03/04/2015 7:57:13 AM PST by elengr (Benghazi betrayal: rescue denied - our guys DIED - treason's the reason obama s/b tried then fried!)
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To: South Dakota
HEY! You know how to make a hyperlink. Well done.

Your point?

57 posted on 03/04/2015 10:36:34 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: South Dakota

Allen v Obama, Arizona Superior Court Judge Richard E. Gordon: “Arizona courts are bound by United States Supreme Court precedent in construing the United States Constitution, and this precedent fully supports that President Obama is a natural born citizen under the Constitution and thus qualified to hold the office of President. Contrary to Plaintiff’s assertion, Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162 (1874), does not hold otherwise.”—Pima County Superior Court, Tuscon, Arizona, March 7, 2012

From the Supreme Court’s ruling in Minor v. Happersett: “The Constitution does not say in words who shall be natural born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to determine that.”
“Elsewhere” turned out to be another Supreme Court ruling 24 years later in 1898, U.S. v Wong Kim Ark.

“An alien parent’s] allegiance to the United States is direct and immediate, and, although but local and temporary, continuing only so long as he remains within our territory, is yet, in the words of Lord Coke in Calvin’s Case, 7 Coke, 6a, ’strong enough to make a natural subject, for, if he hath issue here, that issue is a natural-born subject’

“Subject’ and ‘citizen’ are, in a degree, convertible terms as applied to natives; and though the term ‘citizen’ seems to be appropriate to republican freemen, yet we are, equally with the inhabitants of all other countries, ’subjects,’ for we are equally bound by allegiance and subjection to the government and law of the land.’

…every child born in England of alien parents was a natural-born subject, unless the child of an ambassador or other diplomatic agent of a foreign state, or of an alien enemy in hostile occupation of the place where the child was born.

The same rule was in force in all the English colonies upon this continent down to the time of the Declaration of Independence, and in the United States afterwards, and continued to prevail under the constitution as originally established.—United States v. Wong Kim Ark (1898)


58 posted on 03/04/2015 12:59:08 PM PST by Nero Germanicus (PALIN/CRUZ: 2016)
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59 posted on 03/04/2015 1:00:19 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: philman_36

No dude.
Where is your counter point?


60 posted on 03/04/2015 4:07:54 PM PST by South Dakota (shut up and build a bakken pipe line)
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