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Rabbi Accused of Kidnapping, Torturing Husbands Into Granting Divorces Goes to Trial
ABC News ^ | 02/19/2015 | EVAN SIMON and JOSH MARGOLIN

Posted on 03/01/2015 7:36:00 AM PST by Kid Shelleen

The trial of Mendel Epstein, a New Jersey Rabbi and alleged ringleader of a kidnapping scheme designed to force husbands into granting their wives religious divorces, entered its second day in court in Trenton today.

Epstein, 69, was arrested in October 2013 for allegedly charging undercover FBI agents $60,000 to kidnap a man and coerce him into granting his wife a Judaic divorce decree.

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I saw something like this on one of Sopranos episodes . I guess it is not that uncommon

Denial, Anger, Acceptance, Jan 1999




1 posted on 03/01/2015 7:36:00 AM PST by Kid Shelleen
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To: Kid Shelleen

Fifty Shades of Oy Vey?


2 posted on 03/01/2015 7:38:47 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Texas Eagle

A Get Threat.


3 posted on 03/01/2015 7:45:55 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi (NOPe to GOPe)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

Ah.


4 posted on 03/01/2015 7:47:29 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Texas Eagle
Now that is truly funny! Kudos!
5 posted on 03/01/2015 7:49:45 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Kid Shelleen

“First, you must sit in the Comfy Chair!!”


6 posted on 03/01/2015 7:51:43 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Death before disco.)
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To: Gaffer

Heh, heh. Glad you enjoyed it. Feel free to refreep. Did I just coin a new word?


7 posted on 03/01/2015 7:52:13 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Kid Shelleen

“Hey Paulie, go get the bolt cutters”


8 posted on 03/01/2015 7:57:22 AM PST by gusty
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To: Kid Shelleen

Weird.


9 posted on 03/01/2015 7:59:32 AM PST by Dante3
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To: Kid Shelleen
The defense is expected to tell the jury about the oldest interpretation of Jewish law that broadly outlines torture as a legitimate vehicle for convincing recalcitrant husbands to grant their wives religious divorces. Defense lawyer Robert Stahl said during his opening statements that "the process is a legitimate divorce. It's not a criminal conspiracy." He told the jury that ancient Jewish texts endorse the use of coercion and physical torture in an effort to convince men to grant their wives divorces.

CBS News:

Prosecutors say New Jersey Rabbi Mendel Epstein's team used handcuffs and electric cattle prods to torture men into granting a religious divorce, known as a "get."
Kidnapping, assault, torture. Put EVERYBODY involved in prison for at least 20 years. Everybody even slightly involved.
10 posted on 03/01/2015 8:01:59 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Exactly. No law should supercede the COTUS.


11 posted on 03/01/2015 8:08:51 AM PST by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: Kid Shelleen
******You want a wacky rabbi .....whose services begin at $60,000 a pop?

Defence lawyers said he was a "champion of women's rights" and disputed the charges. Under Orthodox Jewish belief, a husband must grant permission for a divorce. This comes in the form of a document known as a get. Rabbi Epstein, 69, is on trial alongside his son David Epstein and two other co-defendants, Jay Goldstein and Binyamin Stimle. They face similar charges stemming from a staged kidnapping in 2013 and three other "forced" divorces.Screwdriver

During their opening statement on Wednesday prosecutors played a short, grainy video clip of the rabbi discussing a staged kidnapping with two undercover FBI agents. He is heard saying: "Basically, what we're going to be doing is kidnapping a guy for a couple hours."

The authorities alleged the gang brought along surgical blades, a screwdriver and rope.    Rabbi Epstein is also alleged to have told the undercover agents that he arranged similar kidnappings every year or year and a half, which cost at least $50,000 (£32,350) each.  Defence lawyer Robert Stahl argued that his client was acting as an advocate for women and had a reputation for "convincing these husbands to go give their wives a get".

Mr Stahl did not dispute that "some laws may have been broken along the way", but said kidnapping was not one of them.

 

BETTER CALL SAUL!!!

 


12 posted on 03/01/2015 8:09:36 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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They should make a movie. He’ll do anything to get a get.


13 posted on 03/01/2015 8:11:59 AM PST by nickcarraway
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... Jewish law ...

Yeah, well, I'm guessing that there was nothing under NJ law stopping a wife from filing.

Dittos on EVERYBODY involved.

14 posted on 03/01/2015 8:14:47 AM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Kid Shelleen

Didn’t something like this happen in the Sopranos?


15 posted on 03/01/2015 8:16:13 AM PST by samtheman
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To: Kid Shelleen

“You’re not really here for the get, are you, Reb Mendel?”


16 posted on 03/01/2015 8:18:03 AM PST by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: Dante3

Maybe this is why a lot of Rabbi’s don’t want Jews to b armed


17 posted on 03/01/2015 8:32:11 AM PST by riverrunner
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To: Kid Shelleen
Epstein, 69, was arrested in October 2013 for allegedly charging undercover FBI agents $60,000

THAT'S why the Fibbies are too busy to help stem the flow of illegal aliens committing thousands of serious felonies by invading the US surreptiously - they're busy with Mendel and his ilk!

BTW - read a Daily Mail article on one of these deals, and the hubbies can be REAL ARSEWOLLS when it comes to this stuff.

Not condoning it, I'm just sayin'.

The Fibbies need to re-focus to the southern border - cut the crap.

18 posted on 03/01/2015 8:39:14 AM PST by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: PapaBear3625; Kid Shelleen; King Moonracer; dennisw; Calvin Locke; Dante3
'Raped on her wedding night, beaten while pregnant then starved and tortured by her own husband' but still DENIED a divorce: Orthodox Jewish woman fights for religious separation as partner laughs at her in court

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2923960/Orthodox-Jewish-wife-testified-husband-raping-starving-punching-battles-granted-religious-divorce.html

This is a different case, but it appears to represent some of what goes on in certain of the marriages. We're not used to this kind of cultural thinking.

19 posted on 03/01/2015 8:48:27 AM PST by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: Texas Eagle

I’ll bet you hear that line in aTV sitcom or comedians set


20 posted on 03/01/2015 8:55:36 AM PST by Gaffer
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