"Any caliber that doesn't start with a 4 is just for shooting chihuahas and won't stop an angry goblin."
Posted on 02/28/2015 5:42:59 AM PST by RoosterRedux
The Marine Corps has authorized MARSOC operators to carry Glock pistols, since most of the elite outfit's members prefer the popular 9mm over the custom .45 pistols the service bought them in 2012.
The Corps issued a Feb. 2 Marine Administrative Message, or MARADMIN, that green-lighted Marine Corps Forces Special Operations Command, or MARSOC, units to use the Glock 19, a proven design used by many units in U.S. Special Operations Command.
The reliable, easy-to-maintain 9mm features a polymer frame and a 17-round magazine.
The Marine Corps just completed an exhaustive search for a new MARSOC pistol in 2012. The service awarded a $22.5 million contract to Colt Defense LLC., for up to 10,000 Close Quarter Battle Pistols.
The custom, 1911 design replaced the fleet of worn-out MARSOC M45 pistols. It features a rail for mounting lights, a custom trigger, a manual safety, improved ergonomics and glowing Tritium sights for low-light conditions.
As nice as the new .45s are, MARSOC troops prefer to carry Glock 19s instead, sources said.
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"Any caliber that doesn't start with a 4 is just for shooting chihuahas and won't stop an angry goblin."
I agree that .45 is not the best round. They’re big, slow, and expensive. .40 has better ballistics, is smaller, and cheaper. People keep telling me .22 is the best. By your logic it is. I just don’t believe it.
This is my idea of celebrating diversity.
It was developed specifically to kill muslims.
The .38 Special the officers carried in the Philippines just wasn't up to the job.
I carry a Glock 26 (9mm) so I am prejudiced. BTW, I load it with a 15 round mag when at home.
Bullets don’t have knock down power.
That’s a good argument in favor of 9 and .45. .40 has a very violent recoil.
People really mean stopping power. From what I understand, that is a real thing.
If they don’t want those new custom .45s I’ll take a dozen.
Not too many gomers need multiple hits by a .45 to go down
Not always so with a 9mm.
The .38 SAA was .38 Colt, I don’t think the Special came around till the mid 20’s. Two thumbs up for the 1911 and its near perfect 100+ years of service.
I have a 26, too. Along with a 17, 19 and a 21. The 26 is too damn small of a hand print for me. Only way I can use it is with the sissy-finger mag extension bottom plates.
They’re all good, I think, but to me they are dangerous and not in the good sense. I much prefer the 1911s I have.
I have a 33 round mag that looks a little strange but has remarkable balance when firing and getting back on target.
I’ve always viewed pistols as badges of office and personal protection for staff and support types. There are exceptions, of course, in the Special Ops world, but arguments over what model and what caliber are somewhat silly. Find a good one, buy it, issue it. All that shouldn’t take much more than a week given the very high quality pistols on the market today.
I carry my 26 or 19. Depends on my schedule
carry a 42 to the gym. Keep it in a gun case in the corner of the racquetball court or on my hip when doing weights.
Ah! Thanks!
I have a Springfield Armory 9mm, Glock 23 (.40) & a M1911. My Model 23 has the heaviest perceived recoil. But the thing I really dislike about it from the standpoint of target shooting is the heavy, long pull of it’s double-action trigger. It’s just more difficult to shoot accurately & takes more practice.
I think the Glock 22 with it’s longer grip might not feel as much recoil and be easier to control. I’m sure that Marine armourers would ‘lighten’ the triggers for their own use.
I like the Marines having the choice. My personal choice is the 1911. I took the 4 day combat handgun course at Front Sight. My Colt M1991A1 was the only weapon to go all four days without a malfunction. I sent over 800 rounds downrange that week. 15,000 rounds later, the weapon still puts lead on target.
I have a Colt Delta Elite (10mm) which is the .40's big brother in the basic 1911A1 platform. I can assure you, even with full power loads (which come close the to .41 magnum revolver cartridge) perceived recoil is no more "violent' than a .45 ACP in the same pistol. For me, the perceived recoil is different, and it stands to reason given Newton's Third Law. The 10mm delivers a sharper, snappier recoil while the .45 comes in a slower, rolling wave, and again for me, it's actually easier to keep the 10 on target during rapid fire than it is with a .45 ACP.
My nightstand piece and range workhorse (the weapon I fire more than any other) is a CZ75B in .40, and the last adjective I would ever use to describe its recoil is, "violent." Having said that, it has a robust steel frame and excellent ergonomics (surprisingly so for an eastern bloc design, which admittedly borrowed heavily from the Browning P35) which both go far to dampening felt recoil. Of course in a plastic weapon with poor ergonomics, the .40's felt recoil will be substantially heavier.
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