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More courts are telling businesses: stop using religion to discriminate
theguardian.com ^ | February 25, 2015 | Louise Melling

Posted on 02/26/2015 3:16:07 PM PST by ilovesarah2012

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To: RginTN
The correct position is not imposing your sexuality on another.

I'd say that the correct position is to not impose highly questionable beliefs on anyone.

21 posted on 02/26/2015 4:26:35 PM PST by OldNavyVet (http://sunsetridgemsbiology.wikispaces.com/file/view/Darwins+Ghost.pdf)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Someone here had a great idea re florists and bakers: they should state an across-the-board policy of not providing their services for marriage celebrations but only for celebrations of holy matrimony, which is strictly a religious concept.


22 posted on 02/26/2015 4:30:59 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: ilovesarah2012
The promise of equality is not real or robust if it has exceptions.

But the promise of religious freedom is?

23 posted on 02/26/2015 4:39:15 PM PST by PistolPaknMama
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To: Monorprise

They really don’t hear their own words. To them, equality is only possible by trampling on your religious liberties.

Apparently, liberty means that unless I do something you tell me to do, that I don’t agree with, it’s ok for me to lose my business, everything I own and who knows, probably go to jail at some point.

And the example given is a NONPROFIT not PAYING contraceptive coverage. Nobody is being denied the ability to purchase contraception.

It’s basically obvious, because they’re not religious they don’t care about religious liberty. They only care about the LGBT crowd, if it means their rights trample on religious rights - it’s ok with them.


24 posted on 02/26/2015 4:53:01 PM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: ilovesarah2012
companies that try to use the freedom of religion argument as a pretext for discrimination against LGBT people

No bias here, I see.

25 posted on 02/26/2015 5:05:58 PM PST by madprof98
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To: ilovesarah2012

Whatever happened to the proprietor/operator has the right to refuse service to anyone?


26 posted on 02/26/2015 5:15:15 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: falcon99

But what you’ve said is even wrong! Hobby Lobby didn’t say they wouldn’t pay for contraception—just aborticants!!!

There were only six drugs out of scores that they felt they could not be compelled to provide. Each of those six kills unborn babies.

Sadly, everyone seems to get this wrong.

When the truth is known, almost everyone agrees with the SCOTUS decision.


27 posted on 02/26/2015 5:39:43 PM PST by Alas Babylon! (As we say in the Air Force, "You know you're over the target when you start getting flak!")
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

Christians don’t have rights.


28 posted on 02/26/2015 5:44:27 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

People can refuse to do business because people are rude to them. They ask them to leave.p

People can refuse to do business with people who won’t abide by the business’ rules while on the premises.

People can refuse to do business with them if they aren’t wearing certain clothing in the business. Dress codes.

People can refuse to do business with those that can’t afford them.

People refuse to do business with people if they are personally careless and get too drunk, or are a risk to others.

People can refuse business if they are not in store hours.

People can refuse business with others if they are verbally offensive to the business owner.

But people are slaves and have no choice but to do business with people who they believe are engaged in a perverted, sick, and disease-ridden lifestyle? I don’t think so.


29 posted on 02/26/2015 6:03:29 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: ilovesarah2012
Lobby has the right to impose the religious beliefs of its owners on the company’s employees by refusing to cover contraception

A lie right off the bat, Hobby Lobby objected to providing abortion drugs (morning after pills).

30 posted on 02/26/2015 6:11:30 PM PST by Graybeard58 ( For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

And take it one step further. It would be illegal for a farm supply store in Texas to refuse to sell a truckload of ammonium nitrate to some stranger named Achmed. Yeah, I can see Just Us pulling that.


31 posted on 02/26/2015 6:45:00 PM PST by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: ilovesarah2012
I'll bet these courts aren't messing with the Muslims because they know the Muzzies will kill them. Christians and Jews aren't a problem.
32 posted on 02/26/2015 8:18:06 PM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: Alas Babylon!

You are correct, but your response is in the weeds and misses my main point which was the lie that Hobby Lobby can force its religious beliefs on its employees.


33 posted on 02/27/2015 10:29:00 AM PST by falcon99
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