Posted on 02/18/2015 5:21:30 AM PST by jda
A Saudi cleric is garnering headlines for declaring that the sun revolves around the Earth, a clear rejection of all scientific evidence.
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The controversial cleric, Sheikh Bandar al-Khaibari, was caught making the comments in a short video clip posted to YouTube on Monday.
In response to a question posed by a student, al-Khaibari says the Earth is “stationary and does not move.”
While al-Khaibari’s remarks have been mocked on social networking sites such as Twitter, regional experts say his anti-science stance is embraced and promoted by leading Saudi clerics in charge of the country’s religious authority.
“It makes perfect sense for a Saudi cleric to be arguing that the sun revolves around the Earth because this is the sort of message they are getting from on high,” according to David Weinberg, a senior fellow at the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies (FDD).
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There you have it - we have been wrong all these years!
Kind of funny - these people can't figure out running water, yet they tell us the way things are and want to rule the world and if we disagree, regardless of the facts, we're liable to be beheaded.
The Erf revolves around Mad Mo’.
What about Uranus?
Yup. . .they've added much. . .
I can definitely see where this thread is headed!
LOL!
All motion is relative. To state that the sun is the stationary point in your frame of reference around which the earth revolves, or that the earth is the stationary point around which the sun revolves are entirely equivalent.
Neither is true, and neither is false.
The only thing that is true is that the math that describes the motion of the earth, when you make the sun the stationary point of your frame of reference, is simpler than the math that describes the motion of the sun, when you make the earth the stationary point of your frame of reference.
Yes but what is his position on evolution?
Get out the popcorn! When the “settled science” people chime in on this, it could get interesting!
Another great scientific breakthrough by the developers of the Bomb Belt and the Blazing Inferno Cage.
If I'm wrong, I'm sure someone will come along to correct me. But I don't think the above statement is correct. All motion is relative in inertial reference frames, but the Sun-Earth system is not an inertial reference frame due to the centripetal acceleration.
I think the only correct (physics) way to look at it is to say that the Sun and the Earth both orbit about their combined center of mass, which is located inside the Sun, because the Sun is so big.
Again, if I'm wrong I hope someone corrects me.
Imagine the mathematical gymnastics required to describe the motion of the other planets in a geocentric solar system.
(or would it be a terra system?)
There is no fixed points in space. The sun is the best frame of reference for Earth though.
Quite so.
Good brevity while being entirely apt.
Well bear in mind he also thinks its OK to marry 6 year old girls.
That at the smaller scale, but add to that the Sun is also orbiting the center of the Milky Way Galaxy, which itself is moving...
You must have gone to the same school of higher scientific knowledge as the cleric.
What you say is true, as long as you're only talking about the sun and earth - if you observe the sun from the earth, it appears that the sun is revolving around the earth, and vice versa. BUT, when you take into account the movement of the other planets, it is irrefutably clear (unless you deny the scientific method and rely on religious tradition) that the earth (and other planets) revolve around the sun.
I believe jdege is wrong about that (my post #10), but do not be too hard on him. For although I think it's wrong, the above statement is actually a very close approximation to reality!
And that's because the centripetal acceleration of the Sun-Earth system is small, so small that if you take it to be zero your science won't be off by much. So jdege's statement is very close to being correct.
I'm a chemist by training, not an astrophysicist. So if I'm wrong here, I hope someone corrects me.
“Again, if I’m wrong I hope someone corrects me.”
You almost got it correct, because the Sun and all other bodies of mass (planetary bodies, asteroids, comets, meteors, dust gas) in the Solar System orbit around their common barycenter of mutual gravitational attraction, which happens to be located within the Sun due to the Sun’s overwhelmingly greater proportion of mass versus the other matter in the Solar System.
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