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Tesla Model S Battery Life: How Much Range Loss For Electric Car Over Time?
Green Car Reports ^ | February 17, 2015 | David Noland

Posted on 02/17/2015 7:36:42 AM PST by LogicDesigner

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To: LogicDesigner

There are generally limits on physical space, and on backup power when the capacity of the solar panels is exceeded.

The number of stations that will be deployed will be based on average load, not peak load.

What will happen is that the charge time will be rationed.


41 posted on 02/17/2015 8:25:18 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away)
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To: nascarnation

You have the wrong brochure.


42 posted on 02/17/2015 8:26:46 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t like BMW’s personally even tho they are great cars in many ways......so many in the Bimmer crowd are just on an ego trip, and “everyone” has one......but this is one Bimmer I’d love to have.

My Cayman S will still beat it in several areas, but the i8 appears to be a fantastic car. Not bad looking either..... ;-)


43 posted on 02/17/2015 8:27:23 AM PST by Arlis (A "Sacred Cow-Tipping Christian")
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To: cripplecreek

Use private reply...


44 posted on 02/17/2015 8:27:27 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: nascarnation
..my buddy’s daughter has a Tesla...another guy bought a Volt so they arm wrestle over that slot.

Lucky for her, somebody's daughter should be more than a match for the average guy driving a Volt.

45 posted on 02/17/2015 8:34:21 AM PST by Rinnwald
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To: Fresh Wind
“There are generally limits on physical space, and on backup power when the capacity of the solar panels is exceeded. The number of stations that will be deployed will be based on average load, not peak load. What will happen is that the charge time will be rationed.”

Keep in mind that people will need these stations far less frequently than they need a gas station. All of your day-to-day charging miles come from your garage. Only on the occasional long trip will you need a SuperCharger.

That being said, there are other ways to address the problem. The biggest one is that non-Tesla fast chargers are also being built and Tesla will have an adapter for those. Also, I believe I heard that they may allow you to see on the smartphone app if the stalls at a specific station are in use, but don't quote me on that. It seems like a pretty simple feature to implement though.

Also, I don't think assuming that the number will be based on average rather than peak load is correct. If that were the case there would probably be 1% of the stations that there are now. Same reasoning applies to why there are so many pumps at a gas station.

46 posted on 02/17/2015 8:35:13 AM PST by LogicDesigner
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To: LogicDesigner
The range of my diesel,when fully “charged”,is about 750 miles on the highway.
47 posted on 02/17/2015 8:36:40 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obama;America's First "Third World" President)
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To: Gay State Conservative
The range of my diesel,when fully “charged”,is about 750 miles on the highway.

And your diesel gets a 100% recharge in less than 10 minutes.

And your diesel doesn't eat up prime motive power running heat or air conditioning.

Jus' sayin' ...

48 posted on 02/17/2015 8:38:56 AM PST by NorthMountain
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To: sickoflibs

Teslas are for wealthy people to park in their garage : )


49 posted on 02/17/2015 8:52:06 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: LogicDesigner

Consider the source. I’m inclined to call BS!!!


50 posted on 02/17/2015 8:53:48 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Yep. People who can afford Teslas usually have them for a third or fourth car. Too hot? Too cold? Too far? Take the Mercedes! Who’s going to be even a little uncomfortable if they can afford not to be?


51 posted on 02/17/2015 8:56:20 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: NorthMountain

I also do not have $135,000 to buy a car with nor the patience to charge the battery for 40 minutes or more.
I would like to see these electric car drivers go across Minnesota, South Dakota, Wyoming, Utah then Nevada to California like I did in the summertime. Sea level to 8,000ft


52 posted on 02/17/2015 9:00:10 AM PST by minnesota_bound
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To: cripplecreek

All I can think of when I see this picture is of the Russian Aircraft Firm either Tupolev or MIG got thrown in the pockey for 10 years because Stalin had a hair across his butt over the guy. Consider what Stalin did to others, I’d say he got the better end of the deal...


53 posted on 02/17/2015 9:00:26 AM PST by taildragger (It's Cruz, Pence or Walker, anything else is a Yugo with Racing Stripes....)
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To: jjotto

” Who’s going to be even a little uncomfortable if they can afford not to be?”

Great point.


54 posted on 02/17/2015 9:02:23 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: NorthMountain; RegulatorCountry

“eat up prime motive power running heat or air conditioning.”

So does the gas engine- but the energy in gas is so concentrated/lb (over 50 times the energy density of a lithium battery) that it can be efficiently carried.
And that’s why ‘all-electric’ cars are just not inherently practical. They’re “concept cars”.

At best a fuel based climate system is needed even if the electric motor is to provide the motive power, and since the fuel is there anyway it’s reasonable to also have a gas engine for power when needed.
Though it may sometimes be efficient to have only the energy for climate control provided by fuel. If a small propane heater would extend the range dramatically it seems a responsible ecar builder should integrate one safely- and PR fantasies be damned.


55 posted on 02/17/2015 9:08:09 AM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: mrsmith; RegulatorCountry

The heat is a by-product. It must be rejected from the engine to somewhere; in the winter it gets rejected into the cabin.


56 posted on 02/17/2015 9:14:34 AM PST by NorthMountain
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As wally_bert mentioned, Top Gear’s Clarkson did a segment on the i8 last night, and at the end he said he only got like 32 mpg. Of course he’s a leadfoot, but still...? Sharp car, though.


57 posted on 02/17/2015 9:49:24 AM PST by W. (Dem0crat-mandated education reform killed American progress. Thanks, morons!)
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To: LogicDesigner
Keep in mind that people will need these stations far less frequently than they need a gas station.

That argument is irrelevant. The whole point of these SuperChargers is that they would be located along interstates to make long distance driving possible.

Obviously if you never go more than 20 miles from home, you will probably have no need of a SuperCharger.

The smartphone idea is a good one, but useful only if you have the flexibility to choose. If there's only one station within range, you're stuck with it.

Tesla has pushed hard early on to ramp up the number of charging stations as a sales incentive. As the construction rate trails off, and the number of cars increases, that's when the problems will start to crop up.

58 posted on 02/17/2015 12:10:04 PM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

An engineer is someone who can make for a dollar what any fool could make for two. – Alan Kay


59 posted on 02/17/2015 12:43:40 PM PST by nascarnation (Impeach, convict, deport)
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To: nascarnation

And engineer is someone who designed the computer you’re using to slur engineers.

Perhaps Alan Kay should get out of the classroom and spend some time with actual engineers ...


60 posted on 02/17/2015 12:46:37 PM PST by NorthMountain
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