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Levin: "Too Many Conservatives Like Centralized Government"
Breitbart.com ^ | February 3, 2015 | Ian Hanchett

Posted on 02/03/2015 4:40:25 AM PST by Biggirl

Talk radio host and author of “The Liberty Amendments,” Mark Levin argued that “too many conservatives like centralized government, even while they preach otherwise” on Monday.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bush; graham; levin
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1 posted on 02/03/2015 4:40:25 AM PST by Biggirl
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To: Biggirl

Levin is right, but he should not consider Lindsay girl a conservative.


2 posted on 02/03/2015 4:42:30 AM PST by dforest
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To: Biggirl
Yup.

Freedom and Limited government are no longer central Conservative values.
The big Conservative values these days are Government control to make people do the right thing.

I guess we've become a different flavor of Liberalism. Thsi country is so over.

3 posted on 02/03/2015 4:43:09 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Malort, turning taste-buds into taste-foes for generations.)
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To: dforest

Agreed.


4 posted on 02/03/2015 4:43:22 AM PST by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: dforest

Yep. Conservative often just means an ambitious liberal in a geography where it is easier to run in the GOP.


5 posted on 02/03/2015 4:45:31 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Biggirl
Our federal government started out with just a few basic tasks at hand: maintain an army, levy tariffs, regulate commerce between states (real ‘commerce’, not the insane leaps of interpretation it uses for virtually everything nowadays), control our borders, etc.

It has since become a metastasized cancer that permeates our entire existence.

6 posted on 02/03/2015 4:48:43 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Biggirl

Better yet was when he laid into Walker’s squishy amnesty statements.


7 posted on 02/03/2015 4:49:07 AM PST by Phinneous (My First Tag Line! What Goes Here? ;))
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To: 9YearLurker

The media and the GOP elites always call themselves conservatives. The left loves to paint the GOP elites as conservatives because they also know the GOP elites are not conservatives.

Conservatives win, but people think they do not because the big losers are usually GOP elites.


8 posted on 02/03/2015 4:53:46 AM PST by dforest
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To: Biggirl
There are some national needs that call for a strong, central government -- national defense is the most obvious one. The debate at the Constitutional Convention was about how to provide for legitimate, collective national needs and protect individual liberties and states rights at the same time. This debate is as old as our nation (the Hamilton vs. Jefferson view of the federal government). The solution they came up with has served us pretty well for over 200 years.

So you can be a "conservative" and still support constitutional government (which says nothing about the optimal size of government). The real problem is central government getting into things it should never be involved with, like wealth re-distribution.

9 posted on 02/03/2015 5:06:47 AM PST by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
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To: Biggirl

How centralized was the Truman administration? Would that be a good measurement tool?

NO EPA.
NO DHS.
NO Dept of Educ.
NO TSA.
Less IRS.
NO ‘czars’.
NO federalized local cops.
Less FCC.


10 posted on 02/03/2015 5:11:39 AM PST by Terry L Smith
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To: Biggirl

Where has he been?


11 posted on 02/03/2015 5:12:22 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Cincinatus
What you said is true.

But I would emphasize two essential points -- "Constitutional government" basically means "the federal government should not do much" and "the states should make their own decisions".

People who have read the Constitution understand this. The military? Yeah, that's a federal matter. Social welfare? Not a federal matter.

12 posted on 02/03/2015 5:13:25 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Malort, turning taste-buds into taste-foes for generations.)
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To: Biggirl

in the end it is all about power - and absolute power corrupts absolutely. They are human beings - fallen, corrupt souls so we should expect this. Even the most ardent conservative will fall to the demon of power. Even Ronald Reagan has that monstrous world’s largest government building named after him. His family should of stood up and said “NO”; but they didn’t. Why?


13 posted on 02/03/2015 5:13:41 AM PST by Colehill1999 ( Obama always gets a five finger discount at the greensboro woolworths counter.)
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To: Cincinatus
The solution they came up with has served us pretty well for over 200 years.

It served us well for four score and seven yeas to be exact.

14 posted on 02/03/2015 5:16:11 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Biggirl

Those values have been left behind by rings and pseudo conservatives.


15 posted on 02/03/2015 5:16:13 AM PST by exnavy (Got ammo, Godspeed)
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To: exnavy

Sorry? Rinos


16 posted on 02/03/2015 5:17:19 AM PST by exnavy (Got ammo, Godspeed)
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To: ClearCase_guy

The problem I have is that the feds take massive sums of money from the states then use it as a cattle prod to force the states to federal will.

The bulk of tax dollars should never leave the states but be kept at home where the people of the individual states can decide how to spend it.


17 posted on 02/03/2015 5:32:46 AM PST by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: Cincinatus

Our Republic has LONG been dead...and I do not see it getting any better anytime sooner, nor later.

IMHO, it only lasted until the War of Northern Aggression (the ‘Civil’ War [war to change the sitting power structure/leadership]....Which, I guess, IS the correct term, but 180 degrees, and more to my point)

Instead of utilizing the tool(s) at hand (Amendment process), the North went to war to force their will upon the rest of the (Southern) States.

Lo and behold, they pass the 13th/14th/15th Amendments, and use Reconstruction to force the State to comply by extortion (which invalidates all in my eyes) and yet, do the same even TODAY (Voting Rights Act)


18 posted on 02/03/2015 5:37:09 AM PST by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of the problem(s).)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Apparently they have not learned that any and every law made to promote or protect their values will swiftly be perverted to attack to them instead.


19 posted on 02/03/2015 5:39:07 AM PST by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: cripplecreek

Dr Bill Bennett, conservative radio show host, has stated he is not a fan of state rights. Many people like him are in Washington.


20 posted on 02/03/2015 5:50:39 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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