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'Keep Your Religion in the Closet' Says NYT Editorialist
CharismaNews ^ | 1/19/2015 | Michael Brown

Posted on 01/19/2015 3:22:21 PM PST by xzins

"I support the right of people to believe what they do and say what they wish—in their pews, homes and hearts."

So says an influential New York Times journalist.

In other words, "Keep your religion in the closet."

In his Jan. 10 Times editorial, "Your God and My Dignity: Religious Liberty, Bigotry, and Gays," Frank Bruni writes, "I've been called many unpleasant things in my life, and I've deserved no small number of them. But I chafe at this latest label: A threat to your religious liberty."

He finds it "absurd" that the simple act of two men or two women joining together in "marriage" not only runs counter to our creed but actually runs roughshod over it. Yes, "the deference that many politicians show to such thinking is an example not of religion getting the protection it must but of religious people getting a pass that isn't warranted."

In what sense is this an unwarranted pass?

According to Bruni, who has a big problem with what he calls "religion's favored status" in America, when we refuse to participate in any aspect of same-sex unions, we are using our "religious beliefs ... as a fig leaf for intolerance." This would apply to a justice of the peace who refused to perform the ceremony to a photographer who refused to shoot the event.

Does he really think that the only reason we oppose redefining marriage is because of an unjustified, bigoted intolerance?

Is it only "intolerance" that believes that men were designed for women and women for men? Doesn't the mirror, not to mention the human reproductive system, confirm this?

Is it only "intolerance" that believes that it's best not to deprive a child of either a mother or father?

Is it only "intolerance" that refuses to believe that all of human civilization, until the last 15 years, has been wrong about the meaning of marriage? The many variations of marriage that have existed through the ages have all been based on male-female union, and for good reason.

And could it be that there is good reason that our sacred texts tell us that God forbids homosexual unions?

Why must it be "intolerance" that shapes our thinking?

The real intolerance is on the side of Bruni, who opposes religious liberty for individuals in the workplace, reminding us that Christians who refuse to participate in any aspect of same-sex "marriages" are following in the footsteps of "racists [who] used the same argument to try to perpetuate segregation."

Indeed, for Bruni we are "religious extremists." (Who would have imagined just a few short years ago that Christians who believed that marriage was the union of a man and woman would be branded "religious extremists" in a major publication?)

Referencing a florist, a baker and a photographer who were found guilty of discrimination for "refusing to serve customers having same-sex weddings," Bruni argues that "baking a cake, arranging roses, running an inn ... aren't religious acts, certainly not if the establishments aren't religious enclaves and are doing business with (and even dependent on) the general public."

Apparently he fails to understand that, as followers of Jesus, we are called to do everything—not just sacramental things—for the glory of God and therefore our faith colors every aspect of our lives (see 1 Cor. 10:31; Col. 3:23).

Bruni asks, "Would we be content to let a Muslim store owner who believes that a woman should always cover her hair refuse service to women who do not? Or a Mormon hairdresser who spurns coffee to turn away clients who saunter in with frappuccinos?"

He answers: "I doubt it. So why should a merchant whose version of Christianity condemns homosexuality get to exile gays and lesbians?"

First, we're not "exiling" gays and lesbians. We're simply asking for the right not to be forced into violating our deeply-held beliefs—and they are not some murderous, fanatical tenets. Instead, we're simply saying that a Christian photographer should not be forced by the government to take pictures of two men kissing in a romantic wedding pose. (Can you imagine what our Founding Fathers would have thought about this discussion?)

Second, a better analogy would be to point out the absurdity of the government compelling a Muslim caterer to serve pork at a wedding or an Orthodox Jewish photographer to shoot a wedding on the Sabbath. (For more on this, see Ramesh Ponnuru's response to Bruni.)

While Bruni has kind words for "people of faith," he wants that faith kept in the closet, or in his words, in "our pews, homes, and hearts"—but not outside our pews, homes and hearts.

It appears that he doesn't even want us to talk about these things publicly, especially when our views conflict with the goals of gay activism. (Note again that he said, "I support the right of people to believe what they do and say what they wish," but only inside the church building or in the privacy of our homes.)

Well, here's a message from millions of these same people of faith to Mr. Bruni, with all respect for his unique personhood and the importance of his life as a human being created in God's image: We will not stop speaking and we will not stop standing.

We will not go into the closet.

Michael Brown is the author of 25 books, including Can You Be Gay and Christian? and host of the nationally syndicated talk radio show "The Line of Fire." He is also president of FIRE School of Ministry and director of the Coalition of Conscience.


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1 posted on 01/19/2015 3:22:21 PM PST by xzins
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Bruni asks, "Would we be content to let a Muslim store owner who believes that a woman should always cover her hair refuse service to women who do not? Or a Mormon hairdresser who spurns coffee to turn away clients who saunter in with frappuccinos?"

Bad analogies.

No one is forcing the Muslim to uncover her own hair. Nor does she have to endorse uncovered hair in order to wait on the woman in her shop.

No one is forcing the Mormon to drink coffee. Nor does she have to endorse coffee drinking as a requirement of doing the coffee drinker's hair.

The gays came into the bakery and the photographers shops and insisted that they PARTICIPATE in the behavior forbidden to the shop owner.

2 posted on 01/19/2015 3:22:36 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

Keep yer sexual perversions in the closet, pipesmoker.


3 posted on 01/19/2015 3:23:21 PM PST by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Pope Francis)
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To: xzins

Keep our beliefs private while someone’s are made public. Yeah....that’ll work! sarc!


5 posted on 01/19/2015 3:26:58 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: xzins

The NYT agrees with Hitler.

But, not with Christ.

“Do not hide your light under a bushel basket.”


6 posted on 01/19/2015 3:27:38 PM PST by G Larry (Daesh - Obama's future dream for his friends in the Muslim Brotherhood)
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To: xzins
While Bruni has kind words for "people of faith," he wants that faith kept in the closet, or in his words, in "our pews, homes, and hearts"—but not outside our pews, homes and hearts.

Should I pray for him to keep wishing?

7 posted on 01/19/2015 3:31:58 PM PST by VRW Conspirator (American Jobs for American Workers)
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To: xzins

And I’m supposed to care about psychos like this being thrown off buildings by ISIS??

F’ them! Don’t let the ground hit you on the way down, turd puncher.


8 posted on 01/19/2015 3:32:25 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: xzins

Keep your sex life private

BTW- Does the NY Times give this advice to Muzzies?


9 posted on 01/19/2015 3:33:07 PM PST by GeronL
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To: xzins
So says an influential New York Times journalist.

Influential where? The NYT caters to illiterates, so, if not for sites like this, no one would ever read him. I doubt he can influence most of this site's readers.

10 posted on 01/19/2015 3:34:39 PM PST by stevem
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To: xzins

Haven’t met a queer in years. There aren’t enough them to justify all the attention they get.


11 posted on 01/19/2015 3:35:26 PM PST by WriteOn (Truth)
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To: xzins

Meanwhile the homosexual-activist agenda demands that homosexuals come out of the closet.


12 posted on 01/19/2015 3:36:14 PM PST by windsorknot
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To: xzins

“Unless you’re Muslim.”


13 posted on 01/19/2015 3:37:01 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: xzins
In other words, "Keep your religion in the closet."

No.

14 posted on 01/19/2015 3:41:19 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: F15Eagle

I’m not trying to be a homophobe, but I do not get how a man of what seems to be some intelligence can allow another man to insert a penis into his rectum.


15 posted on 01/19/2015 3:49:09 PM PST by Bodleian_Girl
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To: xzins
I believe that a journalist has the same rights of free speech and religion that I do.

But I believe that he only has them while he's in his closet at home.
16 posted on 01/19/2015 3:49:37 PM PST by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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To: xzins

LOL, tell it to the muzzies and the butt bandits.


17 posted on 01/19/2015 3:55:55 PM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: xzins

But the pious photographer who was forced to shoot a gay marriage ceremony would be having his religious sensibilities offended. Now, the NYTimes wouldn’t want to have anyone’s religious sensibilities offended, would they? (Reason they gave for not publishing the CharlieHebdo cartoons.)


18 posted on 01/19/2015 3:57:45 PM PST by BusterBear
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To: xzins

How about this: I’ll keep my religion in the closet, but first you keep your politics in the closet.


19 posted on 01/19/2015 4:09:49 PM PST by cookcounty (IRS = Internal Revenge Service.)
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To: xzins

Keep your newspaper where it belongs. In the recycle bin.


20 posted on 01/19/2015 4:11:37 PM PST by garjog (Obama: bringing joy to the hearts of Terrorists everywhere.)
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