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Transgenderism: a thought experiment
LifeSiteNews ^ | 1/15/15 | Katy French Talento

Posted on 01/16/2015 11:35:54 AM PST by wagglebee

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The idea that we can separate our true personhood from our body is an ancient heresy that raises its head in different forms in every age.

Very true.

1 posted on 01/16/2015 11:35:54 AM PST by wagglebee
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2 posted on 01/16/2015 11:36:49 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

This is about trans-racialism. Maybe it applies to Holder or Obama, whose genes or minority black. Or maybe it should be applied to Steve Martin, who sensitively explored these issues in his movie, “The Jerk.” And then there’s Dave Chapelle...


3 posted on 01/16/2015 11:44:10 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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I wonder if these elites would be quite so indulgent of this materialist assault on human nature

I don't view this as a materialist assault, but as an angelist assault. That is, the same rejection of our body/soul relationship, where we are souls merely inhabiting a body. This pops up in Gnosticism and Mormonism (with pre-existing souls). In Christianity, God INFUSES the human soul into the new body. It doesn't merely inhabit it. After final judgement, our bodies are resurrected, and reunited with our souls.
4 posted on 01/16/2015 11:54:44 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
America: Where else can a poor black boy grow up to be a rich white woman?


5 posted on 01/16/2015 11:55:49 AM PST by mbarker12474
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To: wagglebee

I have a very close male relative that is going through the process of hormones, then the mangling phase after. It is a very sad thing. He is very unhappy, and I suspect will always be so. His Mother took him to a counselor/psycho-logist/psycho-therapist that is a man inside of a mangled body of a “female”. I fully expect him to take himself out of the gene pool one day. As I said, very sad.


6 posted on 01/16/2015 11:57:42 AM PST by Glad2bnuts
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7 posted on 01/16/2015 12:02:43 PM PST by struggle
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In a society that makes it illegal to counsel a person that they can change their behavior from gay to straight, how can we then counsel people they can change their sex from male to female? Which one is easier to do? One is a mindset and programming. The other is surgery and permanent need for drugs and hormones. The Muslims are correct about one thing, the “West” is corrupt and corrupting to any trying to stand for what is right and normal.


8 posted on 01/16/2015 12:02:58 PM PST by Glad2bnuts
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"...if there were a child or a teenager who demanded racial preferences and affirmative action treatment because he claimed that he was truly black, trapped in a white body."

His name is J-Roc:


9 posted on 01/16/2015 12:11:29 PM PST by Boogieman
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Ping for later


10 posted on 01/16/2015 12:16:12 PM PST by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Ward Churchill comes to mind.


11 posted on 01/16/2015 12:45:47 PM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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There’s an inherent contradiction in today’s PC attitudes. A White is always a White, no matter what, and is never entitled to the unfair privileges accorded to non-Whites.

A mentally disturbed person who thinks he/she/it is a different sex, is always believed, no matter what, and is placed in a specially-privileged victim group.


12 posted on 01/16/2015 12:46:39 PM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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From The Guardian, (UK), 2004:
Mistaken identity:

"I changed for all the wrong reasons," Claudia admits. She hoped the surgery would save her troubled relationship with her boyfriend and business partner... Her boyfriend left her in 1987 - a year after the operation. "It was horrible, I'd created a monster," says Claudia. "One day I was making love and something didn't feel right. There was this little ball of hair like a Brillo pad in my vagina." In 1995 she went to see a surgeon who pulled the hair out but warned it would grow back. "He said it would always be there because I hadn't had electrolysis on my scrotum before the sex change made it part of my vagina. When I heard that, I just sat and cried."

The state of the art.

13 posted on 01/16/2015 12:56:15 PM PST by Albion Wilde (It is better to offend a human being than to offend God.)
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Prayer for Patience
Teach me, my Lord, to be sweet and gentle in all the events of my life, in disappointments, in the thoughtlessness of others, in the insincerity of those I trusted, in the unfaithfulness of those on whom I relied. Let me forget myself so that I may enjoy the happiness of others. Let me always hide my little pains and heartaches so that I may be the only one to suffer from them. Teach me to profit by the suffering that comes across my path. Let me so use it that it may mellow me, not harden or embitter me; that it may make me patient, not irritable; that it may make me broad in my forgiveness, not narrow or proud or overbearing. May no one be less good for having come within my influence; no one less pure, less true, less kind, less noble, for having been a fellow traveler with me on our journey towards eternal life. As I meet with one cross after another, let me whisper a word of love to You. May my life be lived in the supernatural, full of power for good, and strong in its purpose of sanctity. Amen.


14 posted on 01/16/2015 2:03:20 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Albion Wilde

How very sad.


15 posted on 01/16/2015 2:04:36 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Dr. Sivana
"In Christianity, God INFUSES the human soul into the new body. It doesn't merely inhabit it. After final judgement, our bodies are resurrected, and reunited with our souls."

Curious...are you making a distinction between the soul and spirit?

16 posted on 01/16/2015 2:28:17 PM PST by Dutchboy88
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Barf warnings have a purpose! I could have gone my entire life without reading that.

Thanks! Where’s the eyebleach?


17 posted on 01/16/2015 2:38:41 PM PST by antidisestablishment (When the passion of your convictions surpass those of your leader, it's past time for a change.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

two people are transgendered one that is a male claiming to be female and the other female claiming to be male meet fall in love. keep it a secret that they are transgendered from each other. how much do you want to bet that the relationship would fall a part if one or both were to find out the truth about there sexual identity.


18 posted on 01/16/2015 3:06:37 PM PST by PCPOET7 (onated)
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It’s part of the journey of self disobey / S.


19 posted on 01/16/2015 3:13:16 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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Curious...are you making a distinction between the soul and spirit?

No.
20 posted on 01/16/2015 3:41:43 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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