Posted on 01/09/2015 7:04:41 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
It's all very simple: the Republicans lost Florida in the 2012 presidential election by 0.88. If conservatives stay at home in 2016 in the same numbers as they did in 2012, then there is no chance of the GOP winning. If conservatives are advised by Governor Palin (unlike in 2012) and Mark Levin to either stay home or vote third-party, then it is impossible to see how Florida could be won by, for example, Jeb Bush.
However, for argument's sake, if, because of Bush's Florida connection and a bad economy, Florida is won, then Ohio (-2.98%), Virginia (-3.88%), and Colorado (-5.36%) also have to be roped-in. The road to 270 Electoral College votes is extremely difficult under the most optimal of circumstances; utter realism indicates that it is impossible with the slightest bleeding off of actual or potential votes from 2012.
What Ralph Nader did for Al Gore's hopes in 2000 would be a pinprick compared to the mountain a Republican nominee would face with a conservative base doing a de Blasio back-turn. There is no comparison with Reagan's 1980 victory, even though there was Republican John Anderson, running as an independent, who got 6.6% of the vote. This is because a Republican won't win both New York and California, as Reagan did, for the foreseeable future.
If the Republican nominee is an establishment figure, a Bush or a Christie, then he has to face the question of his relationship with Governor Palin. Mitt Romney didn't have her as part of his campaign or even have her address the Republican Convention (at which she was the star just four years earlier) in 2012. What did that avail him? There is, of course, no way to determine if the millions of potential GOP voters who stayed home might have turned out...
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It’s pretty elementary. If the GOP nominates a RINO its base will stay home. I know I won’t vote for Jeb Bush, Mitt Romney, or Chris Christie if they are the nominee.
Proudly did NOT vote for Romney in 2012.
Voted downticket only.
So true.
The Marxists with their huge organization and lovingly nurturing MSM sycophants have, I believe already achieved invincibility at the national level This is especially obvious when you see what has just happened at the Speaker and Majority leader elections.
If Romney had won in 2012, the gun control bill that stalled in Congress in 2013 would be law, amnesty for 30 million illegal aliens would have been achieved, Obamacare would be right where it is today, and Nancy Pelosi would have been chosen Speaker of the House earlier this week.
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Yeah, my tagline.
Ditto.
Bingo!
Doesn’t matter to me, one way or the other, if Palin or Levin bolt the Party. If a candidate has an R in front of his or her name they will not get my vote anymore. Fool me once, etc., etc. They have fooled us all too many times.
How many “R”’s who won this past election have all ready betrayed their constituents?
That’s it. I’m done with them. “R”, “D”, show me the difference.
You true conservatives in Washington have to step up to the plate. Renounce your affiliation with the Republican Party. It is done. Stick a fork in it and move on.
If Jeb gets elected, we loose. Its as simple as that. If we can defeat him in the primaries, all fine and dandy. But just like Boehner was re-elected to the Speakership through redistribution of large donations from lobbyists to his cmpaing committees, the same people are wokring to get Jeb nominated.
Remember, Romney never got a majority of votes in most state primaries. More votes went to the opposition than to him. The same thing may happen in 2016.
If Jeb is nominated and elected, he will sit in office for another 8 years, giving lip service to conservative ideas while doing NOTHING to reverse America’s slide into third worldism. He will be worse than his brother and father.
So, if he is nominated, stay home or vote third party and hope he loses. We might get a better crack at it 4 years - if we still have a country left.
For the time being I hope the 2̀ declared Conservatives in the House will form a Conservative Caucus and refuse to participate in the Republican Caucus. The temptation is to say, "but then they will have no influence." They have no influence as it is, and no dignity either. The two parties in the House now are the Democrat Party and the Democrat Party Boehner Division.
boehner should get his revenge by excluding the 25 from the Republican (sic) Caucus.
I will gladly follow them out the door.
The party is certainly at a crossroads. We’ve went along twice with “moderates” with confused messages and lack of teeth. While I don’t believe a firebrand conservative is necessarily the answer I do believe that a passionate, constitutionalist, freedom loving, conservative is the answer. We have the wind at our backs. Liberty isn’t hard to sell, strong families, a growing economy, the boot of government off of the necks of working families isn’t a hard sell but for some reason GOP leadership seem to think their target demographic is illegal aliens, the inside the beltway political class, and corporatist money men. The reason Reagan is popular even today is because he sold an optimistic liberty loving, proud, patriotic vision. I don’t believe that appeal has changed. The problem is we haven’t had a candidate run on anything close to that in a long while.
If the “base” of a party doesn’t actually vote for the candidates that the party runs how can it be considered “the base”?
And since I haven't posted this in a little while --
Much of FR from 2009-2012 = I hate RINOs. I only vote for conservatives. I refuse to vote for liberals. I'm done with the GOP. We need a 3rd party. Blah, blah, blah.
Much of FR close to Election Day 2012 = If you vote for anyone but the Republican candidate you are a traitor. It will be all your fault if Obama wins. Please, please, please vote for Romney.
Much of FR from 2013-present = I hate RINOs. I only vote for true conservatives. I refuse to vote for liberals. I'm done with the GOP. We need a 3rd party. Blah, blah, blah.
Much of FR close to Election Day 2016 = If you vote for anyone but the Republican candidate you are a traitor. It will be all your fault if (insert Dem candidate here) wins. Please, please, please vote for (Romney or Bush or Christie or...)
I will gladly hold the door for them.
TEA Party, circa 2009.
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