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Is Jeb Bush running for president of the media?
Hot Air ^ | January 7, 2015 | Noah Rothman

Posted on 01/07/2015 10:39:02 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: EternalVigilance

To your replies #15, 16 and 17...

Your emotions ignore the laws, as the spouse has the right to make the decision. Then the decision, if no spouse, would be to the parent(s).

My phrase about “pulling the plug” was a reference to letting someone who was brain dead finally die in peace.


21 posted on 01/08/2015 8:10:15 AM PST by octex
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To: octex
Terri was not terminally ill and had a feeding tube. Her family fed her by mouth and when caught the judge that ordered her murder banned them from visiting her and said in court, "I don't want anyone feeding that girl".

It was murder, ordered by a judge, to set a precedent for euthanasia.

Jeb stated that he'd stop it and then reneged.

22 posted on 01/08/2015 8:10:27 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Terri was not terminally ill and had a feeding tube. Her family fed her by mouth and when caught the judge that ordered her murder banned them from visiting her and said in court, "I don't want anyone feeding that girl".

It was murder, ordered by a judge, to set a precedent for euthanasia.

Jeb stated that he'd stop it and then reneged.

Exactly right.

And Exhibit Number One why Jeb is unqualified to be President.

Ever.

23 posted on 01/08/2015 8:12:31 AM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: octex

If someone is really “brain dead”, why would you be concerned?


24 posted on 01/08/2015 8:12:51 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: octex

Accusing somebody of emotionalism, especially when they’re speaking quite matter-of-factly, is a liberal tactic. A quite transparent tactic at that.

And again, I posted what the law is. You’re the one who is willfully ignoring it, not me.

In that, you’re just like Jeb Bush.

The only difference is that he had a sworn duty to carry out that law, and you’re just an anonymous internet poster.


25 posted on 01/08/2015 8:15:20 AM PST by EternalVigilance ('To secure the Blessings of Liberty to Posterity.' It's ultimately what the Constitution is for.)
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To: octex
My phrase about “pulling the plug” was a reference to letting someone who was brain dead finally die in peace.

She wasn't "brain dead". You don't give pain meds for menstrual cramps to "brain dead" patients. Nor do they cry when they are being dehydrated to death. A nurse came forward and told how awful her death really was and her husband sat and ate pizza while watching her die. The court even ordered that she wasn't to be given any fluid to keep her mouth hydrated as she died. This is called evil.

26 posted on 01/08/2015 8:15:45 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: exit82

Absolutely!


27 posted on 01/08/2015 8:16:44 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: octex; EternalVigilance; Morgana; Responsibility2nd; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; Coleus; narses; ...
Your emotions ignore the laws, as the spouse has the right to make the decision. Then the decision, if no spouse, would be to the parent(s).

While that MAY be the case with a terminally ill person on a ventilator, it has no bearing on Terri's case.

My phrase about “pulling the plug” was a reference to letting someone who was brain dead finally die in peace.

No doctor EVER suggested that Terri was "brain dead" at the time of her death.

A person who is brain dead CANNOT breathe on their own, they can't move or any of the other things that Terri was able to do.

28 posted on 01/08/2015 8:18:37 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: octex

Seriously, what part of the following do you fail to comprehend?

Florida Constitution, Article One, SECTION 2.—Basic rights.—All natural persons, female and male alike, are equal before the law and have inalienable rights, among which are the right to enjoy and defend life and liberty, to pursue happiness, to be rewarded for industry, and to acquire, possess and protect property; except that the ownership, inheritance, disposition and possession of real property by aliens ineligible for citizenship may be regulated or prohibited by law. No person shall be deprived of any right because of race, religion, national origin, or physical disability.

The Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution:

“No person shall be deprived of life without due process of law.”

The Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution:

“No State shall deprive any person of life without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”


29 posted on 01/08/2015 8:19:48 AM PST by EternalVigilance ('To secure the Blessings of Liberty to Posterity.' It's ultimately what the Constitution is for.)
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To: DJ MacWoW; EternalVigilance
She wasn't "brain dead". You don't give pain meds for menstrual cramps to "brain dead" patients. Nor do they cry when they are being dehydrated to death.

Let's not forget that people who are "brain dead" are not given morphine for pain as they are being murdered and cannot experience the "euphoria" that the media claimed was a result of dehydration.

30 posted on 01/08/2015 8:23:26 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

I’d forgotten the morphine.


31 posted on 01/08/2015 8:28:58 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Jim Robinson

;-) Indeed!


32 posted on 01/08/2015 8:48:28 AM PST by TheOldLady
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To: wagglebee
Terri had a guardian ad litem who spent considerable time with her. He didn't say that she was in a coma or PVS. He said she was a personality or something like that. Unfortunately, he was appointed by RINO judge greer and that guardian actually a ghoul from USF who even looks like Count Dracula in his profile pics. It was SO RIGGED. And either George W. Bush, POTUS or Jeb Bush, Governor COULD have pardoned Terri instead of playing wag the dog in the courts and in the bodies of Fla legislator and in congress.

USAG Gonzales cancelled Terri's rescue. Coast Guard was going to pick her up and take her to an undisclosed location. GWB ordered USAG to cancel saving her life. The Bushs have blood on their hands and it's not going to wash off. Coast Guard personnel: Michael Reynolds. (coordinator here w/the coast guard who was a nurse got the call that the rescue was called off by USAG.)

It's true, it's all true. I quit the GOP - they killed her.

33 posted on 01/08/2015 9:21:22 AM PST by floriduh voter (Send Barry from the white house to the big house (never happen but I can dream.))
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To: wagglebee
What NOBODY knows... When Terri was in California, someone visited her and she was very frightened and somehow, was able to hide behind the curtain in her room there. Maybe she was afraid someone was going to deck her again. Little did she know an entire bunch of RINOS were going to help creep husband (refuse to name him) attempt to kill her numerous times and when DHS was all organized, the Dept. of Homeland Security played a very large role in her murder.

The only person who helped Terri was Ed Gillespie who lost his bid to be Governor in Virginia I believe it was. Ed Gillespie was the only republican with balls.

Gillespie was replaced or resigned as head of the RNC and replaced by that Lurch guy who was so busy being gay - why would he give a darn about an innocent disabled woman named Terri Schiavo. His name was Mehlman. Killing Terri was okay by him too.

34 posted on 01/08/2015 9:27:08 AM PST by floriduh voter (Send Barry from the white house to the big house (never happen but I can dream.))
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To: floriduh voter

There’s less than 50 people who know the truth. They are going to fight against Jeb as if we were still fighting for Terri and millions who were betrayed by GWB and Jeb will also fight against Jeb. It’s time to say, NO WAY. Further, there was no plug. Get educated or kiss Jeb’s behind and maybe he’ll okay your IPAB death paperwork for you.


35 posted on 01/08/2015 9:30:52 AM PST by floriduh voter (Send Barry from the white house to the big house (never happen but I can dream.))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
No.(Period)
36 posted on 01/09/2015 1:59:34 AM PST by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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To: octex
My phrase about “pulling the plug” was a reference to letting someone who was brain dead finally die in peace.

It's obvious that her brain was in fact Not Dead. She was able to breath unassisted and her heart beat without artificial assistance. A feat impossible when one is truly Brain Dead. I've been around patients like her when I worked in a nursing home for five years. They aren't as dead as media and pro-euthanasia activist want you to believe. I'll also take the word of her parents who were around her much of the time. Remember they wanted to take her home? A feat again Impossible for Brain Dead. They can not live outside a hospital support system.

There is every reason to believe that if simple hydration and nourishment been continued for her she would be alive still today. A huge difference say in someone who has advanced Stage 4 Cancer and family has to make the very difficult choice whether to prolong obvious suffering or hasten death by feeding the Cancer.

For Terri? Anything was possible. The brain recovers different and recovery can come at any time or not at all. I knew a patient who four 4 years had the mentality of about a 12 year old due to head trauma. The next time my wife and I saw him {he was actually her patient she cared for as a CNA before her own disability happened} he was walking down the sidewalk at a local hospital headed into a outpatient rehabilitation program for disabled. He was living alone in an apartment. It took years for his recovery.

37 posted on 01/09/2015 2:33:54 AM PST by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: cva66snipe; floriduh voter; DJ MacWoW; EternalVigilance
Outstanding post!

It astounds me that after all this time, and with all of the information available, that people who claim to be conservative and pro-life repeat the left's false talking points about Terri.

38 posted on 01/09/2015 5:51:14 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: octex
Reasons why this husband should have had not say have Terri killed include:
*The husband should is a suspect - at least should have been - in whatever happened to Terri to cause her condition.
*The husband had a live-in mistress.
*The husband had vested interest in Terri's death.
39 posted on 01/09/2015 2:53:05 PM PST by Dante3
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To: TigerClaws

Jeb is far worse than Romney.


40 posted on 01/09/2015 2:55:46 PM PST by Dante3
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