Posted on 01/07/2015 9:47:46 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
One of the notable things about the Charlie Hebdo terror attack in Paris was how swiftly it was carried out. “It lasted five minutes,” said one witness. The cops were already there — guarding the newspaper offices. Two of the cops were killed.
The assailants gained admittance by forcing a cartoonist to enter the door security code at gunpoint. A large percentage of people — maybe nearly everyone — would have done the same thing, yielded to that threat, in a moment of fear. A certain smaller percentage, perhaps 2 to percent, would for some reason refuse; and refuse unreasonably without quite knowing why. Which of the two groups one belongs to nobody knows until the day.
A young mother and cartoonist who survived the Charlie Hebdo massacre in Paris today said she had let the suspected Al Qaeda killers into the magazine office.
Corrine Rey said she had returned from picking up her young daughter from a kindergarten when she was confronted by two heavily armed men wearing balaclavas.
‘I had gone to pick up my daughter at day care, arriving in front of the magazine building, where two masked and armed men brutally threatened us,’ said Ms Rey, who draws under the name ‘Coco’.
They said they wanted to go up to the offices, so I tapped in the code,’ said Ms Rey, referring to the digi-code security system on the inter-phone.
Miss Rey and her daughter hid under a desk, from where they saw two other cartoonists being executed.
Years ago there was a story about an Israeli security guard who grappled a suicide bomber outside a supermarket where they both blew up. It is doubtful the guard did it for his salary; nobody dies for a pittance. It is doubtful that he even knew what he was going to do until he did it. It was just one of those things you find out about yourself in a moment.
“Well, whadda ya know?” Boom. It’s nice to know you’re made of stern stuff. But it’s a helluva way to find out.
It’s the talking heads who have got all the answers. Take Howard Dean, who’s assures us the world is up against a nameless cult — a nameless second amendment cult, to be precise.
According to Dean, we should stop attributing the “Muslim” label to them because they fall in line with a cult that is able to overcome France’s strict gun laws to carry out such an attack.
“You know, this is a chronic problem,” Dean said. “I stopped calling these people Muslim terrorists. They’re about as Muslim as I am. I mean, they have no respect for whatever anybody else’s life. That’s not what the Koran says. You know, Europe has an enormous radical problem. I think ISIS is a cult, not an Islamist cult. I think it’s a cult. I think you got to deal with these people.”
“You know, the interesting thing here is we talked about guns the last time regarding the United States, regarding how guns get in the hands of the kind of people that kill the two police officers here two weeks ago — France has tremendous gun control laws, yet, these people are able to get Kalashnikovs,” he continued. “So, this is really complicated stuff. I think you have to treat these people basically as mass murders. But I do not think we should accord them any particular religious respects because I think whatever they are claiming, motivation clearly is a twisted cultage mind.”
But honestly, does Howard Dean think al-Qaeda — whoever — is really scared of the police? ISIS just blew up the police academy in Yemen, killing at least 37 people. They’ve killed more cops in the last 36 hours than cartoonists. The assailants, whatever Howard Dean wants to call them, don’t care what he thinks. The Left still thinks terrorism is a function of Western political attitudes: t=f(w). But the probability is that these terrorists think a certain way because they’ve always thought that way. What the cult does is independent of any politically correct mind tricks the Left may seek to implement. They’re marching to a different drummer, to a whole brass band in fact, and none of the musicians take orders from Howard Dean.
In fact, if developments in the West mirror the way things work in the Middle East, not just the media but the police will be the next targets.
Speaking of cults, Dean sounds like a guy trying desperately hard not to lose his religion. Leftist orthodoxy now accepts the innocence of Islamism as an article of faith, on par with say, the enlightenment of the Buddha. It has to be true or else their little world falls apart. The belief in the existence of faceless second amendment cults has now become an existential value for the Left.
They are too completely invested in multiculturalism, social deconstruction and redistribution to doubt the faith now. To misgive their chosen pathway to power, is to fail at the last step. So they’ll grit their teeth and plunge on; they will never give it up on pain of anathema.
And therefore they will cling to their dogma, however improbable it might be, long past the point when any reasonable Leftist would have doubted it. This is the most dangerous aspect of the crisis facing the West. Not only are we in danger of tearing our politics apart, we must. It has now become a case of destroying our civilization in order to save it. We have to stay crazy to avoid the growing suspicion that we’re nuts. The cultural elites of the West are going to hang themselves in the morning according to a schedule that they themselves have devised.
Do you think our elites won’t punch the door buttons to let the killers in to shoot us? They already have. They already have.
call it a cult if it makes them feel better. Would they be in support of banning this cult from existence? This cult that preaches hate
THIS APPROACH WORKED AGAINST THE MORMONS AND WOULD WORK AGAINST THE MOSLUMS.........
the Edmunds–Tucker Act of 1887 touched all the issues at dispute between the United States Congress and the LDS Church. The act disincorporated both the church and its Perpetual Emigration Fund on the grounds that they fostered polygamy. The act prohibited the practice of polygamy and punished it with a fine of from $500 to $800 and imprisonment of up to five years. It dissolved the corporation of the church and directed the confiscation by the federal government of all church properties valued over a limit of $50,000.
In July of the same year, the U.S. Attorney General filed suit to seize the church and all of its assets. The act was enforced by the U.S. marshal and a host of deputies. The act:
Dissolved the LDS Church and the Perpetual Emigrating Fund Company, with assets to be used for public schools in the territory.[9]
Required an anti-polygamy oath for prospective voters, jurors and public officials.
Annulled territorial laws allowing illegitimate children to inherit.
Required civil marriage licenses (to aid in the prosecution of polygamy).
Abrogated the common law spousal privilege to require wives to testify against their husbands[10]
Disfranchised women (who had been enfranchised by the territorial legislature in 1870).
Replaced local judges (including the previously powerful Probate Court judges) with federally appointed judges.
Removed local control in school textbook choice.[citation needed]
In 1890, the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the seizure of church property under the Edmunds–Tucker Act in Late Corporation of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints v. United States.
The church was losing control of the territorial government, and many members and leaders were being actively pursued as fugitives. Without being able to appear publicly, in the 1880s the leadership was left to navigate “underground”.
Following the Edmunds-Tucker Act, the LDS Church found it difficult to operate as a viable institution.
Who remembers El Cid, starring Charlton Heston? I saw it first run at the Strand in Summit, NJ, for 35 cents.
Takeaway: “Then this will be more than a battle! This will be your god ... against mine!”
... funny, the things you remember.
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Indeed
Do you think our elites won’t punch the door buttons to let the killers in to shoot us? They already have. They already have.
Yes, and they will lie, cheat, and steal in order to disarm us in the face of those killers, warbling piously that it's for our own good and for that of society. This is more than a simple political difference. If we allow it we'll be the poor sods on bicycles blowing whistles at killers with AK-47s, and the Left will be telling us we deserved the bullets in our heads.
And I sit here with Fox News on low and I’m thinking between all the 24/7 talking heads and talk radio all we do in some weird Orwellian process is TALK stuff to death. It’s the five minutes of hate thing. Terrible slaughters happen by utterly predictable perpetrators but nothing will be done so blab until the next big news item buries it. Good God what a strange world we’ve become. I can barely stand the madness anymore. And Fox has to have the token muzzie on every 15 minutes to tell us all they are a religion of peace...aaagh
Only, our elites were never forced to open that door — they did it with their own volition.
Needs to be repeated, to those who wish to disarm us and tell us to call 911 and the police for help. You are better off owning firearms to protect yourself. The villains do not fear the police.
I share your sentiments. Insanity reigns and evil is embolden.
I agree.
>> Do you think our elites won’t punch the door buttons to let the killers in to shoot us? They already have. They already have.
Quote of the year.
Without regard to practical considerations or consequences, the only apparent way to end this cycle of violence would be mass expulsions. I doubt that any liberal democracies are willing to face up to that challenge, nor would it be very easy to get support even from most conservatives, let alone all centrists and progressives. Yet what else can we do? Loyalty oaths for people who believe it is okay to lie in the service of their god? Selective explusions? Based on what criteria? The world of Islam is only partially transparent at the best of times, it lacks structure and today’s moderate can easily be tomorrow’s radical.
I would say this — mainstream Muslims, if they truly exist, should do the math and realize that it would not take much more of this extreme barbaric violence to sicken enough of the population that mass expulsion might become a viable political option. I don’t think it has quite reached that level yet (outside of a few isolated groups in society and I would have to admit I am in that state myself at this point).
These actions cannot lead to anything but a breakdown of peaceful relations between the so-called mainstream and the society around them, whether deserved or not (and I would say partly deserved at least due to the lack of a coherent disavowal of the violence, it’s always mealy-mouthed excuses about what can you expect etc, coached by liberal mentors who want to drive wedges into society for their own reasons).
Great writer and thinker!
If (when?) Islamic terrorists try that in many parts of the United States, at least a few decent people will be armed. Not the cartoonists, of course, but a secretary, a maintenance worker, or an accountant will have a CCW permit, and we’ll find out how an AK and body armor do against a handgun and surprise. Five minutes is a long time, and it’s a lot longer if the terrorists do not have the French guarantee that they are safe in a “gun free zone”.
There is no lawful solution to this problem once this murderous cult take hold here as it has in Europe. Only random sniping and burning down their mosques will have any effect and I am not sure who will take on that task.
Actually, that's exactly what it says - provided you aren't already "of Islam" and won't convert.
Howard Dean is still stupid.
“we’ll find out how an AK and body armor do against a handgun and surprise.”
A terrorism expert wrote recently that a handgun will buy you about 5 minutes of time in a typical terrorist attack. That five minutes may be enough time for the calvary to arrive.
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