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2015: Why's the Oil Price Collapsing? Answer: $8+ Trillion Carry Trade
TMO ^ | 1-3-2015 | DK Matai

Posted on 01/03/2015 11:14:15 AM PST by blam

By: DK_Matai

Most in the media are utterly clueless about what's coming in 2015. It is incumbent upon ATCA 5000 to clarify the situation as we did prior to the start of The Great Reset and The Great Unwind during 2007-2008 based on our global intelligence gathering, detailed scenario planning and mathematical modelling of capital allocation and trans-national flows:

1. The price of oil has fallen by more than half from its recent peak in mid-2014 and continues to remain in relative free fall in 2015;

2. The US dollar, in which oil is denominated, is soaring against almost all asset classes and currencies to break its multi-year trend range; and

3. The world's financial system remains on a dollar standard, not a euro, yen, sterling or renminbi standard. Majority of global loans continue to be in dollars.

What Connects These Three Key Dots?

You will have read about the oil price fall, OPEC, shale fracking, oil glut, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Russia, energy supply and demand, geo-strategy and geo-political risk, alongside myriad conspiracy theories. They all may have some truth in them, but they are relative side issues against the major story that ought to be followed and dissected: the explosion of the near $8+ trillion US dollar carry trade.

Of that $8+ trillion, $5.7 trillion is emerging market dollar debt, a global reserve currency those countries can neither print nor control. Dollar hard-currency debt of emerging market economies has tripled in a decade, split between $3.1 trillion in bank loans and $2.6 trillion in corporate bonds. In the last two hundred years, very few cross border lending binges equate in size and scale to this dollar denominated debt colossus fuelled by first world quantitative easing on an unprecedented scale and with near Zero Interest Rate Policy (ZIRP).

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(Excerpt) Read more at marketoracle.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cmmodities; deflation; economy; energy; oil; oilprice
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1 posted on 01/03/2015 11:14:15 AM PST by blam
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To: blam

DEFINITION of ‘Currency Carry Trade’
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/currencycarrytrade.asp
A strategy in which an investor sells a certain currency with a relatively low interest rate and uses the funds to purchase a different currency yielding a higher interest rate. A trader using this strategy attempts to capture the difference between the rates, which can often be substantial, depending on the amount of leverage used.
INVESTOPEDIA EXPLAINS ‘Currency Carry Trade’

Here’s an example of a “yen carry trade”: a trader borrows 1,000 Japanese yen from a Japanese bank, converts the funds into U.S. dollars and buys a bond for the equivalent amount. Let’s assume that the bond pays 4.5% and the Japanese interest rate is set at 0%. The trader stands to make a profit of 4.5% as long as the exchange rate between the countries does not change. Many professional traders use this trade because the gains can become very large when leverage is taken into consideration. If the trader in our example uses a common leverage factor of 10:1, then she can stand to make a profit of 45%.

The big risk in a carry trade is the uncertainty of exchange rates. Using the example above, if the U.S. dollar were to fall in value relative to the Japanese yen, then the trader would run the risk of losing money. Also, these transactions are generally done with a lot of leverage, so a small movement in exchange rates can result in huge losses unless the position is hedged appropriately.


2 posted on 01/03/2015 11:17:10 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jet Jaguar
In a solicitation, Harry Dents says gold will fall to $700.

Gold Will Plummett To $700


3 posted on 01/03/2015 11:19:08 AM PST by blam (Jeff Sessions For President)
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To: blam

Dr Copper


4 posted on 01/03/2015 11:24:24 AM PST by blam (Jeff Sessions For President)
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To: blam; MrB; ShadowAce

Well, things will be interesting right up to Sept 13th...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3211940/posts?page=31#31


5 posted on 01/03/2015 11:31:10 AM PST by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: blam

Massive wealth transfer ahead: Savers, and people with little to no debt will come out on top. In general, fiscally conservative people.

The losers: anything with massive amounts of debt at just about ANY interest rate, as the real rate would easily exceed the nominal (original) rate. In general, liberals, Communists, socialists, &c.


6 posted on 01/03/2015 11:32:48 AM PST by __rvx86 (A non-trivial fear: Government by my peers. Double points if you can figure out when I was born.)
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To: blam

I understand the perils of the carry trade, but I fail to understand the connection between the carry trade and oil.

If the carry trade were to wipe out the economy, I could see the connection, but as presented here I do not see the connection.

An explanation would be welcome.


7 posted on 01/03/2015 11:35:00 AM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: __rvx86
"Massive wealth transfer ahead: Savers, and people with little to no debt will come out on top. In general, fiscally conservative people."

Wouldn't that be hateful?

8 posted on 01/03/2015 11:36:40 AM PST by blam (Jeff Sessions For President)
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Carry Trade Bookmark


9 posted on 01/03/2015 11:37:40 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: __rvx86

Maybe you can explain your reasoning?

It seems to me that wealth transfer has been AWAY from savers. Basically, they are getting zero (or worse) interest on their $$. This also has the effect of driving savers to riskier investments, such as the stock market. This has helped to pump up the stock market.

The US Gov has been doing quite well, because we are financing our massive deficit for almost zero. IMHO, that is what has been driving this train. IF the US had to pay reasonable interest rates on our deficit, the Entitlement State would be bankrupt quickly. The Federal Reserve has manipulated things to keep this from happening. If the stock market goes down, pension fund become insolvent and the house of cards starts to collapse


10 posted on 01/03/2015 11:40:25 AM PST by rbg81
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To: __rvx86

“Massive wealth transfer ahead: Savers, and people with little to no debt will come out on top. In general, fiscally conservative people.”

Maybe that is the way it should be.
But if the dollar turns into toilet paper or the banks close then savers could loose it all.

Just remember that with the suicide game that is being played by the banks and the government in the financial sector that we are all going be wiped out in the end.


11 posted on 01/03/2015 11:41:38 AM PST by Revel
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To: rbg81

This, of course, assumes that deflation is in the cards.

If hyperinflation occurs, then just about everyone is screwed. (Maybe the gold bugs were right...)


12 posted on 01/03/2015 11:44:23 AM PST by __rvx86 (A non-trivial fear: Government by my peers. Double points if you can figure out when I was born.)
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To: rbg81
It seems to me that wealth transfer has been AWAY from savers.

Good point. Real interest rates have been negative (i.e., inflation is greater than the return rate on savings) for a number of years. However, the author's argument makes some sense in a deflationary, rather than inflationary, environment.

If the dollar soars, you can convert it to some foreign holding... oil... castles... foreign stocks. But, here, timing becomes important.

Another caveat: Look at the dollar index, (symbol DXY on some systems). A move of plus or minus 10 percent is huge, but won't change most savers' net financial positions, because they won't know when or how to take advantage of the swing.

13 posted on 01/03/2015 11:46:36 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: blam

I skimmed, I admit — but it’s not just the appreciation of the dollar affecting the price of oil if that’s the premise.


14 posted on 01/03/2015 11:47:30 AM PST by 9thLife (Barack Hussein Obama is one of them.)
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To: Revel
if the dollar turns into toilet paper...

Under that scenario, the two would just switch places - dollars become the new TP, and TP becomes the new dollars.

15 posted on 01/03/2015 11:47:38 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: 9thLife

It’s ALL ABOUT THE US DOLLAR !!

And in fact the US Dollar should have begun this rally back in 2008.


16 posted on 01/03/2015 11:52:40 AM PST by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: __rvx86

If hyperinflation occurs, you would expect the price of commodities like oil to increase, not decrease.

I had done very well with oil from 2009 until last June. It’s been a very rough ride since them. It is STILL a significant part of my portfolio however, because:
1. Like gold, it will never be worth zero.
2. Oil companies pay good dividends. This will decrease somewhat, but it beats the interest I get in a CD.
3. The game the Saudis are playing is to shake out the field of producers. Once this happens, the price will go back up.

I still believe that, mid-long term, the US deficits will have a devastating impact on the Economy. I had thought it would kick in by now, but the Federal Reserve is doing all it can to postpone the day of reckoning. But that day will come.


17 posted on 01/03/2015 11:54:25 AM PST by rbg81
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To: Zeneta

If it’s “all about” anything, FRiend, it’s all about Russia. They are the “axe” in oil. Never forget it.


18 posted on 01/03/2015 11:56:56 AM PST by 9thLife (Barack Hussein Obama is one of them.)
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To: C210N
dollars become the new TP, and TP becomes the new dollars.

New dollars for TP?

O-U-C-H-!

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19 posted on 01/03/2015 11:59:03 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: rbg81

True. This may just be the calm before the storm. But once the excrement makes initial contact with the airfoils, the economy could go either way.


20 posted on 01/03/2015 11:59:08 AM PST by __rvx86 (A non-trivial fear: Government by my peers. Double points if you can figure out when I was born.)
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