Posted on 01/02/2015 10:40:28 AM PST by blam
Marcus Hondro, Digital Journal
January 2, 2015
There are conflicting opinions on what happened to cause AirAsia Flight QZ 8501 end up on the bottom of the Java Sea with all 162 persons onboard dying, but some believe it first landed safely on the water. That opinion is shared by a few.
No emergency locator engaged
The biggest reason they believe it landed in the water safely, more than one said, is that the Airbus A320-200 would have sent a signal if it had crashed. Any destructive crash, on land or in water, would send such a signal and the plane's emergency locator transmitters would have begun transmitting its location.
Flight 8501 did not and that has lead some to believe that the experienced former Air Force pilot, Captain Iriyanto, must have landed the plane safely in the water, noting that emergency water landings are indeed possible. The plane then, they say, must have become swamped by waves in the storm and sunk before passengers could get off safely.
Dudi Sudibyo is a senior editor of the aviation magazine 'Angkasa' and he is one who holds the belief that because there was no emergency locator transmitters (ELT) set-off there could therefore not have been a crash.
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I wouldn’t think that nude bodies in the ocean would support that theory.
I say balogna
Question to aviation experts: Once it is in the water, aren't all transmissions swamped by the water's conductivity? In other words, post crash, isn't acoustic pinging all that works?
Funny how none of these pilots ever use the RADIO!!!!
Some passengers were still strapped to their seats. Often during a collision with a solid object (water doesn’t compress and is considered a solid object), the ELT will break loose from the airframe and never activate. Some ELT’s activate when water hits them, others required a velocity change of 2.3 +/- 0.3 G (4.5 +/- 0.5 FPS)
Landing at sea is not safe
Aviation Experts Think The AirAsia Flight Landed Safely
Maybe they just get too excited and forget to push the transmit button when they are yelling “ALLAH SNACKBAR”!
You should see how their bad landings turn out.
Some AirAsia victims found belted in seats
http://news.yahoo.com/7-more-bodies-recovered-airasia-crash-16-total-072153699.html
Captain: “Thank goodness we had the pontoons installed before we departed.”
Co-pilot: “Uh, Captain...”
Indonesia is the land of incompetence, rumors, superstition and corruption. If the story was put out that Jews and aliens captured the plane to do medical experiments on Mars with devout Muslims, 50% of Indonesians would believe it.
The wreck was actually found by an Indonesian fisherman. Pretty much in the spot where it was last communicated with air-traffic control. And yet the Indonesian Navy still couldn’t find it.
Did AirAsia pilot successfully ditch plane on sea’s surface only for it to sink in storm? Experts claim Flight 8501’s emergency locator failed to go off because there was no major impact
What’s really interesting is this quote from the article:
“Mr Soejatman meanwhile remains convinced that the reason for the crash, while officially a mystery, is possibly because the aircraft was caught in a severe updraft, followed by an equally severe ground draft.
He said that leaked figures showed the plane climbed at a virtually unprecedented rate of 6000ft to 9000ft per minute and ‘you can’t do that at altitude in an Airbus 320 with pilot action.’
The most that could normally be expected, he said, would be 1000ft to 1500ft on a sustained basis, gaining 3000ft in a burst.
But then the aircraft fell at an even more incredible rate of 11,000ft a minute, with extraordinary bursts of up to 24,000ft a minute - figures higher than the Air France A330 Airbus that crashed into the Atlantic in 2009, killing 228 passengers after attaining baffling ascent and descent rates.
Mr Marosszeky agreed that a climb rate of at least 6000ft a minute would indicate a ‘severe weather event,’ because that rate of climb was a ‘domain for jet fighters.’”
The pilot must have pulled out of the dive at the last minute before ditching it into the water.
If plane broke up in air most of the bodies would have been
naked as wind blast ( plane traveling aprox 500 mph) tore clothes off
Remember article saying one of the bodies recovered was clothed in red uniform of AIR ASIA flight attendent ........
Forgot to add - bodies would exhibit certain trauma from wind
blast
Arms and kegs often are broken from faling around in the
wind blast...
Most likely stalled at altitude,causing a flat spin all the way down, impacting flat on it’s belly.
It went straight up, it went straight down, it landed... How about, it crashed? Hopefully the flight recorders will tell us what happened and if AirBus are unsafe in certain conditions as this is not the first time they have crashed like this.
BTW, notice that of all the dozens of ships and aircraft, the single US ship has alone recovered 1/3 of the victims found. As always, takes Americans to get the job done. Wonder if they will even thank us?
I thought the initial reports I saw indicated that the aircraft is largely intact on the floor of the sea. That would mean not only that it didn’t break up in the air, but that it probably didn’t crash violently into the water, either.
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