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Where de Blasio Is Right: How Coolidge handled a 1919 Boston police strike holds lessons for NYC
National Review ^ | 01/01/2015 | Amity Shlaes

Posted on 01/01/2015 9:49:48 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 01/01/2015 9:49:48 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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2 posted on 01/01/2015 9:51:27 AM PST by MtnMan101
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There should not be a NYC police strike for one reason. At this point in the city’s course of events, there should BE no police to strike. There should be moving vans with former police and their families headed to non liberal states to restart their lives.

Period.


3 posted on 01/01/2015 9:57:29 AM PST by Norm Lenhart (1`)
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The stories of New York today and Boston after World War I have some similarities. In Boston in 1919, the policemen also had compelling reason to complain: Inflation had climbed wildly after World War I, but police pay was not keeping up.

Yeah that's exactly like being gunned down.
4 posted on 01/01/2015 10:03:29 AM PST by cripplecreek (You can't half ass conservatism.)
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There's a big difference between the Boston police strike of 1919 and the recent events in New York City.

The NYC situation isn't clearly a labor dispute, though I suspect the ongoing labor negotiations between the police unions and the city government are playing a role here. What's happening in NYC today is the result of the city's mayor going out of his way to undermine the police department -- not by underpaying them, but by criticizing them and questioning the legitimacy of the work they do.

And after the assassination of two police officers by a mutant who was motivated by one of the controversial situations that was behind the mayor's hostility to the NYPD, the NYPD personnel have every reason to steer clear of any unnecessary encounters with the public.

This is why the NYPD will always get more support from the public today than the Boston police department got back in 1919.

5 posted on 01/01/2015 10:08:52 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("The ship be sinking.")
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The BPD struck over wages and the like. Bloody Bill de Blasio is supporting and meeting with lying miscreants that call for the killing of cops at random.


6 posted on 01/01/2015 10:09:35 AM PST by Calvin Locke
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A mass resignation and departure of even a small fraction of the NYPD would be enough for the Feds to step in and Federalize the remaining elements of the NYPD.

The “civilian national security force”, as well armed and as well trained as the US Defense Department, was one of the things the Current Occupant called for prior to his coronation in 2009.


7 posted on 01/01/2015 10:14:11 AM PST by alloysteel (Most people become who they promised they would never be.)
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There should be moving vans with former police and their families headed to non liberal states to restart their lives.

Why would the non-liberal states want them? These are people who were willingly part of one of the most anti-freedom governments in the USA (e.g. NYC and the non-existent 2nd amendment) Let them stay in NYC and reap the harvest of liberalism that they are the enforcment arm for - or at least they were until it turned and bit them.

8 posted on 01/01/2015 10:23:11 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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The police are not on strike. This article is idiotic.


9 posted on 01/01/2015 10:24:23 AM PST by irv (Live Tea or die!)
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De Blasio might tell these critics that it would be political suicide for him to support anyone but minorities in New York.

Wilhelm is in a unique position not normally faced by politicians in his position...he is married to a minority member.

10 posted on 01/01/2015 10:24:38 AM PST by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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Reagan was a fan of Coolidge, calling him RR's favorite president. Coolidge's handling of the Boston Police strike seems to have been echoed in Reagan's no compromise approach to the air traffic controllers' union with eerily similar results, i.e. predictions from the Democrats that it would backfire politically but actually making Coolidge/Reagan a hero to tax paying voters.

Quite the reverse is happening with deBlasio and the police. To the people who pay the taxes and still make up a majority the police are the heroes and any "tough" action the elected Marxist POS may try will blow up in his face. Totally different situations based on totally different character of the men involved.

11 posted on 01/01/2015 10:26:04 AM PST by katana (Just my opinions)
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The BPD struck over wages and the like. Bloody Bill de Blasio is supporting and meeting with lying miscreants that call for the killing of cops at random.

Yes this article misses the mark by a wide margin.

12 posted on 01/01/2015 10:27:10 AM PST by FreeReign
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They should still leave and go somewhere so NYC suffers the consequence of their liberal voting, just as the rest of us suffer the consequences of the abject morons that keep voting for RINOs ‘no matter what’. DAILY. WE don’t have to take them but they should leave.


13 posted on 01/01/2015 10:32:29 AM PST by Norm Lenhart (1`)
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It’s important for the same people to ask themselves: What if the police were taking the position that their pay should be tripled?
Oh, but it's perfectly PC to demand that burger flippers and whoever hits the ON button on the French fries machine be paid at $15.00/hr starting wage, with full benefits.
14 posted on 01/01/2015 10:54:37 AM PST by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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Shame on Amity. Wrote a good book about the depression. But when she says “What the 1919 Boston strike story reminds us is that policemen can’t be policymakers.”

Nobody is saying the police get to be policymakers. But in return, the policymakers do not get to literally side with, give comfort to, and support the enemy who revel in its lawlessness.
She is dead wrong. And if she thinks what New York needs is the national guard in the streets to teach the cops a lesson, she’s batty.


15 posted on 01/01/2015 11:03:59 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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It is so ridiculous this analogy. Calvin Coolidge didn’t say the cops were steeped in centuries of racism and that he needed to warn his non Irish Catholic how to act in front of the police. Calvin Coolidge would not join with people who block traffic and create an atmosphere where killing the police is cool. Calvin Coolidge didn’t hate the police; Commissar Wilhelm/Big Bird deBlasio does!


16 posted on 01/01/2015 11:07:51 AM PST by Stepan12 (Our present appeasement of Islam is the Stockholm Syndrome on steroids.)
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“There is no right to strike against the public safety by anybody, anywhere, anytime.”

Does this include the Mayor and his actions that were a strike against public safety by encouraging this murderer that his cause was righteous?


17 posted on 01/01/2015 11:08:36 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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Exactly like being gunned down by people the mayor is egging on to do so.


18 posted on 01/01/2015 11:09:55 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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“If voters doubt that Mayor de Blasio will ever change his policy, they should concentrate on electing a new mayor, as happened when voters chose a law-and-order candidate, Giuliani,”

Hey Amity, how does that happen when the cops cheerfully go about business as usual, like nothing is wrong? The slowdown is what has made the average New Yorker get it that something is seriously wrong.

Besides, im not sure how much is deliberate, and how much is a natural result on cops being very cautious and methodical to avoid ambushes. It isn’t business as usual, and so the parking ticket numbers and peeing in public numbers will reflect that. Is the “drunk” pissing on a wall a set up to another ambush?

Id love to see Amity and her big talk go patrol the streets just one afternoon on Queens and see how much big talk we get. National Review spewing crap. Sad to see Buckleys mag go that route.


19 posted on 01/01/2015 11:17:00 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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"If voters doubt that Mayor de Blasio will ever change his policy, they should concentrate on electing a new mayor, as happened when voters chose a law-and-order candidate, Giuliani, over the incumbent “conciliator,” David Dinkins, in 1993."

Voters can't fire him for another three years, and he won't resign!

Bad policing is like bad doctoring, bad lawyering ... and bad governing -- New Yorkers won't experience the result until it's too late.

20 posted on 01/01/2015 11:46:35 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("In a democracy people get the leaders they deserve." - Joseph de Maistre, 1753-1821)
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