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Experts: Teens safer in newer, larger cars
Detroit News ^ | 12-22-14 | Karen Kaplan

Posted on 12/24/2014 7:45:26 AM PST by smokingfrog

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To: GBA

Same thing happened to me. The small car was totaled and my Buick suffered a cracked taillight.


41 posted on 12/24/2014 9:23:18 AM PST by Brother Cracker (You are more likely to find krugerrands in a Cracker Jack box than 22 ammo at Wal-Mart)
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To: BenLurkin

Have you not noticed? “Teen” is the mandated Press euphemism for Negro aged 16 to 30+ acting badly. If a “teen” shot somebody or got shot or robbed a store it is 100% a Negro. Anybody else acting badly between 13 and 18 is a “teenager.” over that a “man” or a “woman.”


42 posted on 12/24/2014 9:36:45 AM PST by arthurus
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To: Zuriel

Your 59 Ford must have been exactly like mine.
Mine was light blue. First car $50.


43 posted on 12/24/2014 9:37:10 AM PST by right way right (America will reject the suck of Socialist Freedumb, one way or another.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Experts say the best car for your kid (or anyone for that matter) HAS to have ESC.

Wrong. The best method is to teach your kids how to drive correctly in the first place. ABS, ESC, automatic braking all teach bad habits, and when someone who is used to these items gets into a car without them, they'll be worse off than if they never had them to begin with.

44 posted on 12/24/2014 9:38:51 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: IYAS9YAS

Unless your kids are into vintage iron, how likely is that?


45 posted on 12/24/2014 9:40:07 AM PST by nascarnation (Impeach, Convict, Deport)
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To: Brother Cracker

I learned to drive in a 1975 Oldsmobuick Land Yacht. It was an interesting experience. This was back when the teacher loaded four students in the car (three in the back, one at the wheel), had a brake pedal on the passenger side, and yanked the wheel to keep you from careening off the off-ramp at 55 MPH (old-Nixon era rules) and into a field.


46 posted on 12/24/2014 9:42:27 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: smokingfrog
Want a good first car for the kid? Pick up a P71 Crown Vic at the Police auction.
47 posted on 12/24/2014 9:45:01 AM PST by CapnJack
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To: nascarnation
Unless your kids are into vintage iron, how likely is that?

Quite, actually. My kids will inherit a 1997 Honda CR-V. It does have all-wheel drive, which is helpful, but most vehicles today don't even have that. It does not have ABS, stability control, nor does it have automatic braking. Many cars up through the '90s didn't have most of these things. Stability control is not common before the 2010s on lower-priced vehicles. ABS wasn't even on all vehicles in the 2000s. Heck, my 2006 Hyundai Elantra didn't have ABS. Auto braking? That's brand new, and only a few models have them now.

48 posted on 12/24/2014 9:50:41 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: IYAS9YAS

There’s a reason most all racing divisions have outlawed these types of electronics...they work and make driving too easy. But that’s exactly the kind of advantage you want your inexperienced drivers to have.


49 posted on 12/24/2014 9:57:58 AM PST by nascarnation (Impeach, Convict, Deport)
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To: nascarnation
But that’s exactly the kind of advantage you want your inexperienced drivers to have.

I'd rather they developed the skills to drive, than develop the skills to rely on electronics. I watched young kids kart racing at 6 (well, practicing, anyway, I think the minimum age was 8 to actually compete in sanctioned racing) who could drive circles around most drivers today. Those things didn't have high-tech gadgets on them.

Formula One is fun to watch, but they have had so many cars drop out of races over the course of the season due to electronic and technical glitches, that it's not as fun to watch as a good old-fashioned winged sprint-car on dirt.

50 posted on 12/24/2014 10:12:12 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: arthurus

Has it ever occurred to you that when a teen commits a crime, it is accurate to report that it is a teen that has done so?


51 posted on 12/24/2014 10:14:57 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: IYAS9YAS

It’s great if your kids are/have gone to racing school.
They’ll be among the .05% of the top drivers.
My general comments refer to the masses of inexperienced youts on the road every year.


52 posted on 12/24/2014 10:22:21 AM PST by nascarnation (Impeach, Convict, Deport)
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To: CapnJack
Want a good first car for the kid? Pick up a P71 Crown Vic at the Police auction.

There's one problem with that car...people always slow down when you're behind them, even when they're not speeding.

53 posted on 12/24/2014 10:27:25 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away)
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To: nascarnation
My general comments refer to the masses of inexperienced youts on the road every year.

True. It also doesn't help that some states (NM included) hand out drivers licenses to those who can't even speak English, or read in their native language, for that matter.

54 posted on 12/24/2014 10:31:32 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: IYAS9YAS

Really? You advocate teaching your kids how’s to drive a 1974 Dodge first? So that later if they have to drive that Dodge again they’ll know how?

I learned to drive in the 70’s. But I never learned how to drive a Model A. Never had to. Am I worse off as a driver?

Teach your kids how to drive a modern car. Later if they want to drive an antique without airbags, seatbelts, ESC, etc. Then fine. Let them learn.


55 posted on 12/24/2014 10:32:27 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: CaptainAmiigaf

We’ll never forget how my “land yacht” 1976 Olds 98 saved
my life one night on Route 85.

This headline is not news to us!


56 posted on 12/24/2014 10:33:33 AM PST by Mrs. B.S. Roberts
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To: Brother Cracker; CaptainAmiigaf

I owned the 1968 Olds version of that car in ‘78.
The 1976 version of that car saved my life in 1984.
(drunk driver crossed the line and hit my ‘76 Olds (same General Motors blue color). I walked away; he didn’t.


57 posted on 12/24/2014 10:36:05 AM PST by Mrs. B.S. Roberts
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To: BenLurkin
The word "Teen" in the Press in news reports always designates a black youth up to an age much above 19 acting badly. "Teenager" or "youth" is used in other cases. Check it out. If the article says "teen" then further down in the piece or the next day the "teen" will be identified as a Negro.

On nighttime talk radio here there is a PSA that runs several times every night that admonishes people to not give alcohol to teens. Several of the black employees where I work who hear my radio have independently asked me or each other why they are aiming just at black kids. Is it okay to give alcohol to white kids?

58 posted on 12/24/2014 10:40:43 AM PST by arthurus
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To: IYAS9YAS; CaptainAmiigaf

I learned to drive in the 1968 version - full bench seat.
I’m 5’3” and my Dad (fellow freeper) is 6’6”. After being the passenger side for hours while I drove around our town,
he practically needed the jaws of life to just get out of the car. Poor guy had his knees up to his chin. Had
something bad happened there was no way he could have
yanked the wheel; he could barely move - he was wedged in
tight.
[Thanks Captain Amiigaf!}


59 posted on 12/24/2014 10:41:00 AM PST by Mrs. B.S. Roberts
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To: Responsibility2nd
Really? You advocate teaching your kids how’s to drive a 1974 Dodge first? So that later if they have to drive that Dodge again they’ll know how?

No, I advocate teaching skills first, then relying on tech, so that if they wind up driving a vehicle without all the fancy tech, they'll know how to drive it.

You do understand that ABS isn't even on all cars manufactured today, some cars have traction control, but many don't, most cars don't have electronic stability control, and automatic braking is brand new tech. Developing skills is far better than relying on tech.

Electronics can fail, then what?

60 posted on 12/24/2014 10:41:05 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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