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The reason oil could drop as low as $20 per barrel
Reuters ^ | December 19, 2014 | Anatole Kaletsky

Posted on 12/19/2014 12:11:58 PM PST by C19fan

How low can it go — and how long will it last? The 50 percent slump in oil prices raises both those questions and while nobody can confidently answer the first question (I will try to in a moment), the second is pretty easy.

Low oil prices will last long enough for one of two events to happen. The first possibility, the one most traders and analysts seem to expect, is that Saudi Arabia will re-establish OPEC’s monopoly power once it achieves the true geopolitical or economic objectives that spurred it to trigger the slump. The second possibility, one I wrote about two weeks ago, is that the global oil market will move toward normal competitive conditions in which prices are set by the marginal production costs, rather than Saudi or OPEC monopoly power. This may seem like a far-fetched scenario, but it is more or less how the oil market worked for two decades from 1986 to 2004.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Russia; Syria; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: crimea; donetsk; energy; iran; lebanon; oil; opec; ruble; russia; saudiarabia; syria; ukraine
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Can hope and pray but are we one geopolitical event away from $100+ a barrel again? $20 a barrel would take down Iran, Russia, and Venezuela.
1 posted on 12/19/2014 12:11:58 PM PST by C19fan
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Makes you wonder, if they can sell it for $50 a barrel now, why couldn’t they 10 years ago?.............


2 posted on 12/19/2014 12:14:24 PM PST by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: C19fan

War or massive terrorism before $20/gal.


3 posted on 12/19/2014 12:14:50 PM PST by EEGator
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To: C19fan

A geopolitical event will happen before Iran, Venezuela or Russia are taken down. Most likely event is that one of those three countries will cause the geopolitical event.


4 posted on 12/19/2014 12:16:01 PM PST by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: Red Badger

Well, there is a huge increase in supply, and demand has somewhat decreased. This is not a mystery.


5 posted on 12/19/2014 12:16:07 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: C19fan
Can hope and pray but are we one geopolitical event away from $100+ a barrel again? $20 a barrel would take down Iran, Russia, and Venezuela.

So much volatility everywhere. This can't go on forever. And when it stops going on forever it is going to get really ugly.

6 posted on 12/19/2014 12:17:11 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Any energy source that requires a subsidy is, by definition, "unsustainable.")
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To: C19fan

$1.75 a gallon here as of today.


7 posted on 12/19/2014 12:18:09 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Dang I may have to buy a Hemi Challenger......


8 posted on 12/19/2014 12:18:56 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Red Badger

The oil market is a huge racket, that’s why. It’s as far from a free market as possible.


9 posted on 12/19/2014 12:19:29 PM PST by Monty22002
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To: C19fan

Let’s do the Fuel-Oil Limbo! How Low Can You Go?


10 posted on 12/19/2014 12:21:33 PM PST by lee martell
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To: thackney

Ping.


11 posted on 12/19/2014 12:23:32 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: lee martell

I’m going to go fill up all my fuel tanks in the barn this weekend!!


12 posted on 12/19/2014 12:24:37 PM PST by 9422WMR ("Ignorance can be cured by education, but stupidity is forever.")
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You know cutting the grass a year ago was getting expensive!

We are already feeling the relief from the gas prices.

I travel 120 miles round trip everyday.


13 posted on 12/19/2014 12:29:08 PM PST by Uversabound (Our Military past and present: Our Highest example of Brotherhood of Man & Doing God's Will)
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To: Jewbacca
More like the supply has continued to outstrip demand for long enough that the speculators were looking at taking delivery of stuff they really didn't want physically and so are busy unwinding their paper mobius strips.

Once the demand again outstrips supply for a while, there will be plenty of speculative money to be made by driving the price up again.

14 posted on 12/19/2014 12:29:09 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Uversabound
I bought a new lawnmower at the start of last Summer.

I didn't want to run it on any gasohol. The quickest way for me to get some pure gas was to buy a 5 gal. can of the most appropriately blended racing fuel. ~$12/gal.

I now have found a cheaper source, but it is not super close.

15 posted on 12/19/2014 12:32:58 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: C19fan

“So which of these arguments will prove right: The bearish case for a $20 to $50 trading-range based on competitive market pricing? Or the bullish one for $50 to $120 based on resumed OPEC dominance?”

Simple to find the answer: is OPEC buying American oil rights and companies so they can shut them down?

In my limited knowledge they are not. Norway’s STATOIL seems to be a big buyer of US oil assets and they will want to sell.


16 posted on 12/19/2014 12:33:40 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Red Badger

We won’t be drilling as much at those prices. The shale wells drop off fast. Without the dollars to pay for sufficient drilling, total production will fall, while cheap prices will increase demand, and the ride back to the top will start again.

Oil demand has increased 9 million barrels a day in ten years.

The real cost of oil for an oil company to remain, is the price to produce the next barrel of oil. If you cannot get the fund to replace reserves and production as time moves forward and you sell what you have, you are going out of business.

Right now, the supply has grown so fast, that the investment is pushed past the demand, combined with a slowing demand growth.

So the folks that just competed a $10 million dollar well in October, may never break even, depending on the length and depth of the price dip.


17 posted on 12/19/2014 12:35:13 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: Red Badger
"Makes you wonder, if they can sell it for $50 a barrel now, why couldn’t they 10 years ago?"

It was around $40 a barrel in Dec. 2004...

18 posted on 12/19/2014 12:36:58 PM PST by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: Red Badger

There were all these “fears” of things that could possibly, maybe, happen. Don’t you remember?


19 posted on 12/19/2014 12:37:20 PM PST by vpintheak (Keep calm and Rain Steel!)
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To: C19fan

It will go low enough, long enough to bankrupt Russia and force them out of Ukraine..... but now low enough to destroy the US economy.


20 posted on 12/19/2014 12:39:03 PM PST by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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