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1 year from now, freedom dies worldwide
wnd.com ^ | 12/15/2014 | Lord Monckton

Posted on 12/15/2014 6:05:48 AM PST by rktman

Freedom is our birthright. The forthcoming climate treaty – if the failed Copenhagen draft of five years ago is any guide – may yet prove a greater threat to liberty than fascism or communism. For it is the same threat writ global, albeit with the jackboots and guns very carefully hidden – for now.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: deniers; epa; gorisms; lordmonckton; warmunists
I got some big ol' fluffy chunks of agw falling right now. Looks like the haughty john f'n kohn-heinz-kerry will get another go at the round table in gay Paris yet again. I propose we just hand out the following to the delegates:

1. Define the “correct” temperature range for the planet.

2. Define the “correct” humidity range for the planet.

3. Define the “correct” mean sea level for the planet’

4. Define the “correct” amount of precipitation for the planet.

5. Define the “correct” makeup of the atmosphere.

6. Define the “correct” amount of sea ice at the N/S poles.

7. Define/explain past glaciation and subsequent warming without any input from humans.

That should all be easy enough to do.

1 posted on 12/15/2014 6:05:48 AM PST by rktman
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To: rktman

Correct is whatever they determine it to be minute to minute. The details of reality are not important, only their need to control. They must have every jot and tittle of moral authority removed from their patina revealing the harsh ugliness of their enterprise.


2 posted on 12/15/2014 6:15:09 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

Facts are stubborn things. That is why we no longer need them.


3 posted on 12/15/2014 6:19:44 AM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: rktman

The man with gun to your head doesn’t have to define anything.


4 posted on 12/15/2014 6:20:23 AM PST by deadrock (I am someone else.)
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To: rktman
Very good points. I'd add:

8. Describe, in detail, the technologies available to mankind to control 1-6.

9. Describe, in detail, the interactions of all the atmospheric, terrestrial, geologic, and biological systems that contribute to 1-6. Include your plan for getting through the transient period from today to your ideal 1-6.

10. Describe, in detail, contingency plans, what could go wrong and how to mitigate them if we were so foolish as to try.

11. Justify how this attempt to "manage" nature will be different than any of mankind's other initial attempts to "manage" nature - which haven't worked out so well.

12. List the species of flora and fauna that will be stressed/lost by transitioning to the idea 1-6.

13. Explain how holding climate in an artificial stasis would be a good thing when nature seems to abhor stagnation.

5 posted on 12/15/2014 6:21:39 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: ThunderSleeps

We’d just get the old mom and pop answer. “Because we said so, that’s what.”


6 posted on 12/15/2014 6:33:35 AM PST by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to take some of mine away. Odd, eh?)
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Any Climate Treaty will be reinterpreted, twisted, manipulated and expanded just like the federal government under Obama has manipulated and expanded the Patriot Act and just like the Supreme Court has manipulated the US Constitution.


7 posted on 12/15/2014 6:54:08 AM PST by Iron Munro (D.H.S. has the same headcount as the US Marine Corps with twice the budget)
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To: rktman

I would add one more:

Will ALL countries be held to the same standard/restrictions?

Globull is a crock of crap!


8 posted on 12/15/2014 7:12:20 AM PST by rfreedom4u (Do you know who Barry Soetoro is?)
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“Will ALL countries be held to the same standard/restrictions?” LOL! That’s just silly of course. Only industrialized nations that have done so much to destroy the world will be held accountable. The rest of you, back in your mud huts and burn some more cattle poop to cook your meager dinner. Never mind that the industrialized countries have been sending you a lot of your food. Well at least the elites have been getting it. Their distended stomachs ain’t from hunger.


9 posted on 12/15/2014 7:28:35 AM PST by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to take some of mine away. Odd, eh?)
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To: rktman

You have done what the MSM never do with regard to “climate change”: ask just how we determine what those optimal readings are for such things as sea ice coverage, average temperature, etc. The topic is loaded with unexamined and unchallenged assumptions. It is the champions of “climate change” who act is if they can PREVENT the climate from changing, as if they can stop it at some ideal point the way you would adjust the thermostat in your house.


10 posted on 12/15/2014 7:43:24 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: ThunderSleeps

I put them together for us:

Hand out the following to anyone:

1. Define the “correct” temperature range for the planet.

2. Define the “correct” humidity range for the planet.

3. Define the “correct” mean sea level for the planet’

4. Define the “correct” amount of precipitation for the planet.

5. Define the “correct” makeup of the atmosphere.

6. Define the “correct” amount of sea ice at the N/S poles.

7. Define/explain past glaciation and subsequent warming without any input from humans.

8. Describe, in detail, the technologies available to mankind to control 1-6.

9. Describe, in detail, the interactions of all the atmospheric, terrestrial, geologic, and biological systems that contribute to 1-6. Include your plan for getting through the transient period from today to your ideal 1-6.

10. Describe, in detail, contingency plans, what could go wrong and how to mitigate them if we were so foolish as to try.

11. Justify how this attempt to “manage” nature will be different than any of mankind’s other initial attempts to “manage” nature - which haven’t worked out so well.

12. List the species of flora and fauna that will be stressed/lost by transitioning to the idea 1-6.

13. Explain how holding climate in an artificial stasis would be a good thing when nature seems to abhor stagnation.


11 posted on 12/15/2014 7:48:25 AM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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