You guys are absolutely correct I will in the future abstain from attacking our dear leadership. Instead I will attack the
Dagnabbed Tea Party.
Posted on 12/13/2014 9:00:21 AM PST by upchuck
The Whig party was basically formed as a "second" party to oppose the democratic party...not a third party...
I might add this isn't 1825...it's 2014 where money is the tool of power not political principles...
I'm not opposed to a third party in principle, but it's doomed to fail for lack of money...
there really is no question anymore. The leadership are RATS in every sense of the word. People like us have no representation.
I have no problem seeing their flat faces being peeled off the floor...
Politics have vastly changed sine the Whig party fell apart due to the issue of slavery...which allowed the new party of the GOP to put a sitting POTUS in the WH in two cycles...
Money rules over political principles now and a third party wannabes have no vast amount of wealth to build a party from the ground up...
Pulling support for the GOP will only allow the Dems to rule for a long time...
Regrettably, this is untrue. Most of the money comes from Wall Street, K Street and corporate donors. The GOPe will always have the money it needs.
What needs to be done is rob the GOP of voters. The money is useless if no one votes for you.
But...
is it doomed for lack of patriotic ideology? AKA, Declaration of Independence and fealty to the US Constitution? If you agree to that concept, then we (patriots) have lost both the skirmish and war; bend over, cover your genitals and expect the worst.
I contend that a majority of citizens of the USA would rather we “protect, defend and uphold” the Constitution of The United States rather than just “follow the money”. From my personal investigations (yep, anecdotal!), most folks think that ^more money = political win^.
That is what patriots need to change in the minds of voters...because the voters aren’t getting the millions of dollars “distributed” by the politicians.
Philly n*****rs get $100 of ^walking around^ money. How does that change their lives other than they can get another $100 in 2 years for the next cycle? P-tui!
Dear Cetus
“:: With all due respect a third party is an astonishing dumb idea :”
what is ASTONISHINGLY dumb, is voting for RINOs
BTTT
What surprises me is the number of people surprised by this; it was perfectly obvious that this was going to happen.
Hell, the GOP[e] leadership was telling us that they were for amnesty before the elections — something so incredibly politically-stupid that the Democrats fear pushing it for fear of losing their base!
It's not Republican vs Democrat, it's Elite vs. Mundane; we-as-a-nation are quite plainly being told sit down, shut up, and take it, Mudblood!
Conservative
in all its meanings except keeping things the same
is philosophically opposed to this sort of elitism, as is classical Liberalism. — Now isn't the time to divide between Republican/Democrat, or Conservative/Liberal, but the time to pull together around things that we can find commonly good. Things like Justice, Liberty, anger and hatred of crap like the NSA's domestic espionage, the IRS's political targeting, Civil Asset Forfeiture, etc.
“When the people find that they can vote themselves money that will herald the end of the republic.” ― Benjamin Franklin
We are there...I still cling to the hope it can be turned around...
IMHO, a third party isn't the answer...
You and I and brothers from a different mother.
:: We are there...I still cling to the hope it can be turned around ::
How did Abe Lincoln and his “republican cohorts” turn it around? A direct appeal to patriots who believed that “ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL”!
And, in-case Harry Reid missed it, there is no consideration for ^melanin content^ of those “men” (AKA, citizens)
Third party wouldn’t help.
Conservatives have to take over the leadership.
But, in the time intakes to take over, the conservative becomes more like the current leaders.
It’s a cycle of human endeavor.
“only alternative is either a new party, or at least an independent candidacy at the Presidential level”
I understand that, agree to some degree
Yet, ultimately the Republican would need to win under that scenario.
The GOPe would not concede for the sake of the country, but the conservative would.
Palin can run and before the end withdraw and endorse the GOPe candidate after having gotten many concessions and having made many points in the debates.
“Cruz/Palin?
Personally, I think that ticket would win in a landslide.”
If they were the GOP nominees.
As third party, it would guarantee a Democrat win.
Great post.
“The way to take over a political party is to start at the bottom”.
Yes. Problem is, conservatives quite rightly don’t want to waste their lives doing this.
So we get leftist ideologues in the D and obsequious sycophants in the R.
We’re taking over the GOP. This is the long fight. You have to take the tent, make it bigger, and help people to understand conservatism. The future is conservative populism.
I very seriously doubt that.
We don't have time, they are drilling holes in the bottom of the boat faster than we can patch them.
Exactly what did the GOPe sell out for? Easier money for their campaigns, exactly what the voters were looking to gain, right?
If a genuine conservative populist doesn't rise out of this ash heap then the great experiment is over.
We have only one place to turn now and currently it isn't very popular. Wailing and gnashing of teeth won't help.
She did not want him opposed in the primary or any of the other GOPe for that matter, saying we must gain a majority at all costs. Well here are the costs.
You guys are absolutely correct I will in the future abstain from attacking our dear leadership. Instead I will attack the
Dagnabbed Tea Party.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.