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House Dems block charitable tax bill
The Hill ^ | 12/11/14 12:56 PM EST | By Bernie Becker and Cristina Marcos

Posted on 12/11/2014 10:17:59 AM PST by 11th_VA

House Democrats blocked legislation on Thursday that would have permanently extended three tax credits for charitable giving, ending an effort to give nonprofits a last-minute victory.

The bill got a strong majority in the House, with 275 members voting for it, including 47 Democrats. But the measure fell eight votes short of the two-thirds majority it needed to pass, with 149 Democrats voting against it after House Democratic leaders whipped against it and President Obama threatened a veto.

The vote ends a last-ditch effort by the nonprofit sector to get three of its priorities into law for good, after a broader deal that would have accomplished that fell apart last month. The measure was pushed by Congress’s top tax writers, House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Dave Camp (R-Mich.) and Senate Finance Committee Chairman Ron Wyden (D-Ore.), but would have faced a difficult path in the Senate even if it had cleared the House.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Michigan; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: 113th; davecamp; michigan; oregon; ronwyden
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Democrats: NO ONE, is going to give charity, without going thru the hands of the Gov't first ...
1 posted on 12/11/2014 10:17:59 AM PST by 11th_VA
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To: 11th_VA
The logical question that follows an illogical event is ...

why ?

What constitutional or illegal transgression was spared the American people by the ever watchful for our well being democrats ? (spit)

2 posted on 12/11/2014 10:21:22 AM PST by knarf
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To: 11th_VA

Am I missing something?

Why did this need 2/3rds?


3 posted on 12/11/2014 10:23:15 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: knarf
Why?

I just pointed that out. Democrats want to be the gatekeepers of all charity given out in this country. They love to give away other people's money ...

4 posted on 12/11/2014 10:24:22 AM PST by 11th_VA
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To: VanDeKoik
Why did this need 2/3rds?

Rules - no amendments to the bill without 2/3's approval

5 posted on 12/11/2014 10:25:11 AM PST by 11th_VA
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To: 11th_VA

Democrats want people to rely on the feral government for help.


6 posted on 12/11/2014 10:30:12 AM PST by Iron Munro (D.H.S. has the same headcount as the US Marine Corps with twice the budget)
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To: 11th_VA

This is a TERRIBLE bill.

The whole thing needs to be defeated.


7 posted on 12/11/2014 10:31:48 AM PST by Tzimisce
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To: 11th_VA

Those sneaky charities are always trying to lure voters off the democrat plantation with their no-strings-attached handouts.

/s


8 posted on 12/11/2014 10:31:55 AM PST by Iron Munro (D.H.S. has the same headcount as the US Marine Corps with twice the budget)
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To: Tzimisce

I’ll take an 80% solution at this point ...


9 posted on 12/11/2014 10:32:48 AM PST by 11th_VA
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To: VanDeKoik

A 2/3rds vote would be veto proof.


10 posted on 12/11/2014 10:33:37 AM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: Tzimisce

Next year, you’re going to see twelve separate funding bills go to Obama for signature. That Couldn’t happen this year because Reid blocked it ...


11 posted on 12/11/2014 10:34:39 AM PST by 11th_VA
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

> The bill got a strong majority in the House, with 275 members voting for it, including 47 Democrats. But the measure fell eight votes short of the two-thirds majority it needed to pass, with 149 Democrats voting against it after House Democratic leaders whipped against it and President Obama threatened a veto.


12 posted on 12/11/2014 10:35:20 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Celebrate the Polls, Ignore the Trolls)
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To: 11th_VA
I'm glad I wasn't drinking coffee or I'd have needed a new keyboard when I read this line from the article;

In scuttling the bill, Democrats argued that the bill’s $11 billion cost should be offset, especially after Republicans opposed permanently extending tax incentives for working families.

That term "... extending tax incentives for working families." is, I believe, referring to not including Obama's 'amnestied' (un/non-documented) in the EITC.

13 posted on 12/11/2014 10:36:29 AM PST by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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To: 11th_VA

The view is that if you are tax exempt, it is the same as a positive subsidy.

I have seen many on FR say the same thing.


14 posted on 12/11/2014 10:37:54 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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Beware of the idea of federal tax credits since Congress can legally tax only for what it needs to perform its constitutional duties, most of those duties listed in Sectian 8 of Article I. Tax credits make it sound like you’re getting a tax break from the federal government when you’re actually still paying for constitutionally indefensible federal government services.


15 posted on 12/11/2014 10:44:34 AM PST by Amendment10
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Next year, you’re going to see twelve separate funding bills

Is that true? I heard McConnell gassing about that with Greta the other night but I thought this omnibus bill wipes out our options until September 2015.

Or are you talking about that, Sept. 2015, as next year?

Alternatively if they kill this crime-nibus bill, we can start the separate funding even early this year, right?

Thanks in advance for any insight.

16 posted on 12/11/2014 10:47:35 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: Fightin Whitey
Next Year = FY16, Yes, Oct 1, 2015.

There isn't time to rehash the whole FY15 budget (we're 3 months into it already).

I'm optimistic FY16 will be funded thru 12 separate bills, and the Democrats will become known as the party of 'NO'...

17 posted on 12/11/2014 11:06:02 AM PST by 11th_VA
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To: 11th_VA
Reid has over 300 bills sitting on his desk he won't allow votes on.

How did we end up with one person deciding things of this nature?

And then we have dems accusing republicans of blocking legislation and causing government shutdowns when it is actually them.

In fact the other day Obama himself said he has no problem with him HIMSELF shutting down the government if the republicans won't “compromise”

LOL, that's all they have been doing.

The dems REFUSE to compromise, compromise to them is republican capitulation to their tantrumatic demands.

If the gov shuts down, the scardy cat republicans need to state over and over again that it is the dems and the “resident” who cause it.

Or suck it up and say yeah, we shut down the out of control spending. The ball's in the dems court.

Compromise or shut the freep up.

18 posted on 12/11/2014 11:13:48 AM PST by Syncro (Benghazi-LIES/CoverupIRS-LIES/CoverupDOJ-NO Justice--Etc Marxist Treason IMPEACH!)
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To: 11th_VA

Gotcha.

The only problem I see with that is that McConnell and Boehner are always promising to pay next Tuesday for their hamburger today.

And next September is a lot of Tuesdays away.

But here’s hopin’. And thanks again.


19 posted on 12/11/2014 11:33:54 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: 11th_VA

On Rush just now it’s reported that the House vote on the omnibus bill has been delayed.


20 posted on 12/11/2014 11:54:40 AM PST by AU72
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