Sen. Ted Cruz: 'Torture is Wrong. Unambiguously. Period. The End.'

Breitbart ^ | December 10, 2014 | Charlie Spiering

[yldstrk]

History and the facts say otherwise. Confessions beaten out of people are unreliable.

[Hugh the Scot]

Good day, Mr. Alinsky.

[Hugh the Scot]

Bothered? Perhaps; but certainly not for the reasons you may assume.

I had a co-worker once, who seemed like a reasonable man. One morning, on arrival at our work site, he spotted a 5-gallon bucket of rust-proofing compound, and (maybe due to a lack of coffee, or some other unknown distraction) immediately launched into a 15 minute, profanity laced tirade against the company we worked for. For some reason, his mind had transposed the label on the bucket to read "roof-rusting compound". Such a product doesn't actually exist, of course, but my friend was absolutely incensed that the "@&$#%%! FOOLS" who had just announced that we would not be getting a cost-of-living raise that year, would waste precious money on such a bat-guano insane thing as roof rusting compound. I was truly embarrassed for him.

You see, he was arguing against his own fevered imaginings.

It appears that I may have made a few statements in this thread that could be, and were, misconstrued. The first of which, apparently, was " I'm not following you." You realize that does not always mean "I don't understand what you're saying", right? Sometimes it simply means that I'm not taking the bait, not going there, etc.

The second, of course, is that little "you'll find out" that I tossed in at the end of my long-winded screed.

What you don't know, like a novice who suddenly believes they are an expert on aircraft technology because they once flew on a commercial jet, is the reason for saying it. Far from being my own attempt at Clancyism, it was a wink and a nod to my loved ones. You see, my daughters (both of them) were raised in church, learning to fear and love God; and in the woods, learning to stalk, and to shoot straight. I seriously doubt that either of them could be taken alive.

So rather than continue to prop up and assault straw men created from your own misunderstanding of what I've said and who I may be; let me offer this.

It is truly a weak conservative who opposes a correct and conservative position, simply because a hated Democrat pretends to embrace the same position. No one here has ever heard me deny that I would defend my loved ones to the death if necessary.

My position throughout this thread has simply been that Ted Cruz' statement was spot-on correct, truly a conservative position, and truly an American one.

If I have erred in refusing to debate the merits of roof-rusting compound with you, then that's my mistake to live with. I'm calling this off.

[liberalh8ter]

Yes, he did walk into that but as mistakes on the trail heading toward the election go, this one doesn’t even count ;-)

[C. Edmund Wright]

I agree.....won’t count.....just a tiny bit disconcerting for those of us on Cruz control.....

[liberalh8ter]

Here's to hoping he learns how to better finesse his future statements. He didn't have to go there but I believe he's reaching out to Libertarians.

[C. Edmund Wright]

you may be right, but never has a conservative won a national election by “reaching out” to others.....they only win by bringing others to them.

[liberalh8ter]

It's a new day and Cruz has to siphon from the Rand Paul supporter pool.

[C. Edmund Wright]

I don’t think so - those supporters - the kind who will be siphoned off by this - will stay with Rand, stay home, or vote third party or Democrat. I think you are somewhat looped into the conventional wisdom of how to win elections, which is disproven almost every two years.

[liberalh8ter]

It's certainly not a sure bet -but- I believe more people are completely disenchanted with DC than any other time in my lifetime. That's the reason, the ONLY reason, I think he may be able to siphon some of those off (assuming he isn't railroaded in the primary by his own party).

[C. Edmund Wright]

I agree about the disenchantment with DC. I also think that makes the case for bringing people to you, not pretending to go to them. Cruz is the consummate anti DC politician.

BTW, you may find this interesting: it’s ON TOPIC OF DC disenchantment

www.iCongressNow.com

[central_va]

Terrorists deserve to be tortured. Whether you get or even want to get intel from them as a result is irrelevant.

[yldstrk]

They may deserve it, but torture degrades the torturer and is unAmerican.

Just kill them off quickly.

[yldstrk]

“It is truly a weak conservative who opposes a correct and conservative position, simply because a hated Democrat pretends to embrace the same position. No one here has ever heard me deny that I would defend my loved ones to the death if necessary.”

They are being Mary Mary quite contrary lol

[central_va]

The CIA agents the used “enhanced interrogation techniques” deserve a medal from the C-I-C and praise, not your derision.

[liberalh8ter]

Interesting and right on point. I like your comment on the site, as well. Sure would love to see it happen, Telecommuting, DC style.

[CatherineofAragon]

"If I have erred in refusing to debate the merits of roof-rusting compound with you, then that's my mistake to live with."

Long-winded, pointless, nonsensical rants have no merits. But I'll give you a pass, because I think it's already been established that you're impressed by your own rhetoric.

The only thing you have to live with is your mixed-up libertarian moral compass, to the point that you would sacrifice your family to your confused "ideals."

[CatherineofAragon]

"History and the facts say otherwise. Confessions beaten out of people are unreliable."

These are the facts, which you refuse to acknowledge:

The CIA said it obtained good information.

So did Dick Cheney.

Are they lying?

You're not dealing in reality, ylstrk.

[VideoDoctor]

Every single one of them Cruz included, CANNOT resist repeating the “politically correct” statement of the moment.

[bobby.223]

Be gone you self important liberal snob. T.B.Y.S.P.P