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'Torture can be useful to make people talk': Le Pen (French party leader)
The Local ^ | 10 Dec 2014 11:41 GMT+01:00

Posted on 12/10/2014 7:32:16 AM PST by Dave346

In the wake of the damning American Senate report on the CIA’s torture practices French far-right leader Marine Le Pen risked a backlash when in an interview she claimed there are times when torture can "be useful to make someone talk".

The report uncovered the brutal CIA interrogations of al-Qaeda suspects in the years after 9/11 and sent shockwaves around Washington and the rest of the world.

The UN and human rights groups are now even calling for the prosecution of the US officials involved but Marine Le Pen, leader of the right-wing Front National party, seems to have a more understanding view of torture.

Responding to questions on a damning report released in Washington over brutal techniques used by intelligence agents to extract information, Le Pen told BFM television earlier: "I don't personally disapprove."

"At certain times, for example when a bomb is about to explode and 200 civilians could get hurt, it can be useful to get a person to talk with whatever means you have,” she said.

"I personally believe the people who deal with terrorists and also getting information out of them to save civilian lives are responsible people," the leader of the far-right National Front party added.

"So has there been abuse? Maybe, and the US needs to determine this.

"Allow me to say this: There can be cases, for example when a bomb is ticking, tick tock, tick tock, tick tock, and will explode in an hour or two and could cause 200 or 300 civilian victims when it is useful to get someone to talk."

Asked whether torture could be used to do so she said: "With the means at your disposal."

(Excerpt) Read more at thelocal.fr ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; US: California; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: california; cia; detention; diannefeinstein; interrogation; islam; radical; waterboarding

1 posted on 12/10/2014 7:32:16 AM PST by Dave346
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To: Dave346

So you catch three of the worst guys ever, and you suspect that they have info that could kill thousands of innocent people, and you don’t make every attempt to get the info out of them? What would lefties do? I just don’t get it.


2 posted on 12/10/2014 7:36:21 AM PST by bergmeid
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To: bergmeid

Unfortunately, it appears many of those who were tortured were innocent. It is a bad precedent to set to allow the government to torture people in its custody. You can imagine the benefits some government official could have by increasing a conviction rates through an increase in the willingness of those arrested to ‘confess’ their crimes...


3 posted on 12/10/2014 7:51:14 AM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: Dave346

No shockwaves. It’s made up by the media.

Just like the race wars.

They’ll both blow over b/c hardly anyone cares - neither situation is real - and we know.


4 posted on 12/10/2014 8:04:43 AM PST by Principled (Deceive-o-crats ALWAYS lie)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

Better the waterboard than the drone strike.


5 posted on 12/10/2014 8:13:35 AM PST by Dave346
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To: Dave346
Like it or not, torture has been used by all sides in various wars. We used it in World War II (including the aftermath) and Vietnam, although unofficially, as did the Japanese, the North Koreans, the North Vietnamese officially and the Germans unofficially. We used it to a massive extent in suppressing the Philippine insurrection. The British used it against us in the Revolution, and in the Indian Wars, both sides used it. War may be necessary, but it is never noble.

The Bush administration should have done what Western ranchers do when their livestock are threatened by predators on the endangered species list: shoot, shovel, and shut up.

6 posted on 12/10/2014 8:15:43 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: Dave346
'Torture can be useful to make people talk': Le Pen (French party leader)

Le Capitain Obvious nes pas?

7 posted on 12/10/2014 8:17:41 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Dave346

There are some things I don’t like about Le Pen, but I must admit she’s better than most politicians these days. I think she could really shake things up if she gets into power.


8 posted on 12/10/2014 8:17:59 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Don Corleone

Well, Common Sense ain’t so common anymore.


9 posted on 12/10/2014 8:18:21 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

Yes, The Comfy Chair or The Soft Pillows would work much better. /s


10 posted on 12/10/2014 8:19:11 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Dave346

Even a Frenchie gets the reality that the RATS don’t get.


11 posted on 12/10/2014 8:21:02 AM PST by uncitizen (our government is treasonous)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

To be honest, I have not read this report. I was not aware we had more than three high profile, hardcore individuals.

Besides, how true is this report? From what I understand we didn’t talk to any CIA people. Also, if this had worked, would the left ADMIT that? And would it be worth interrogating, in one form or another, if we could save lives? Or would we prefer to remain “honorable” even if innocents had to die? This is not clear cut and dried......


12 posted on 12/10/2014 8:22:39 AM PST by bergmeid
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To: bergmeid

I have an idea. Skip the penny ante stuff and act like America used to. Attack the sponsor country conventionally. And yes, there is always a sponsor country. Typically it’s the Saudis. A Marine division should be rolling in and seizing mecca. Torture is playing their silly game. And for the record I don’t think we did anything I would call torture. We were one step removed from the comfy chair of the pythons.


13 posted on 12/10/2014 9:58:24 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Dave346

And the way our government looks at me and my type lately, no, I do not support them having the slightest ability to torture or abuse anyone. Stop and think exactly who’s nuts they really wish they could hook the electrodes to. That’s all I’m saying.


14 posted on 12/10/2014 10:02:13 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Wallace T.

The Germans were very official in the use of tortuous techniques.


15 posted on 12/10/2014 10:04:07 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: DesertRhino
The Germans in that era had no qualms about torturing Jews, Slavs, resistance fighters, and Communists. They did observe the Geneva Convention with respect to “Aryan” POWs such as the British and Americans, if only for fear of retaliation against their own captured military. There were some instances of abuse, and some downed Allied pilots were killed on the spot by locals.
16 posted on 12/10/2014 1:35:44 PM PST by Wallace T.
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To: Wallace T.
They did observe the Geneva Convention with respect to “Aryan” POWs such as the British and Americans, if only for fear of retaliation against their own captured military.

One word, "Malmedy."

17 posted on 12/10/2014 1:36:50 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

True enough, and our soldiers fighting the Battle of the Bulge did not wait for the postwar war crimes trials to exact revenge for the massacre.


18 posted on 12/10/2014 1:50:31 PM PST by Wallace T.
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