Posted on 12/07/2014 8:24:06 AM PST by Kaslin
I acquired a National Match model with a VERY low SN nearly 20 years ago. I paid $400 for it I think. Its been hand glass bedded in a hand rubbed tiger birch stick. I topped it with the correct 2nd Gen SA Rangefinding scope. Paid almost as much for that as I did the rifle.
It’s beautiful and a wicked accurate shooter. I won’t part with it.
Not sure who Michael Schaus is, but he would do well stick with talk radio hosting, and give up the amateur attempts to explain the gun industry.
He’s managed to get the history of Colt’s completely upside down and backwards. Except for the part when he names it one of the nation’s most prolific gunmakers. Also, one of the earliest that’s still carrying on.
Sam Colt’s first attempt did go under, but the second did not succeed because of “crony capitalism” (which did not exist in the 1840s); it got a start selling revolvers to the War Dept, but most of its products were sold to private individuals. Some numbers: 1100 Walker revolvers made and sold to War Dept 1847-48; 325,000 M1849 pocket revolvers sold to private buyers, 1849-1873. Another illustration ought to convince: the Single Action revolver - staple of western films since the beginning of filmmaking - was introduced in 1873; the US government bought some 35,000, and removed the arm from active service in 1892. Colt’s kept making the arm until 1940, eventually making more than 350,000. Public demand convinced the company to return it to production in the 1950s, but no government agency has bought any.
Colt’s did indeed make and sell many guns to the national government and numerous state and local agencies in peace and in war: all the Gatling Guns, the M1895 Browning Machine Gun, most M1911 pistols, most M1917 (water cooled) machine guns, many M1918 BARs from 1917-WWII, most M1919 (air cooled) machine guns until WWII, every 50 cal machine gun until WWII, every Thompson Submachine Gun before WWII. Plus millions of revolvers large and small (some of which the feds did buy, it’s true), and nearly all semi-auto pistols until after WWII.
If delivering hardware to government agencies in fulfillment of contractual obligations is “crony capitalism,” then any private business, large or small, that contracts with any government to provide goods or services is just as guilty.
Sweet!
The Russians designed the revolver to push the cylinder forward before the sear released the hammer. The barrel and cylinder fitted pretty tight thus a suppressor worked acceptably.
LOl, well aren't you just soooo wonderful and SMART as well!!
I simply passed along my experience with the weapon. The accuracy part was something TOLD to me by the instructor, likely an exaggeration but not a big one from my experience as well as that of others on the range. I was in the USAF, not Special Forces and as a USAF guy not overly involved with weapons since I served the entire time in the UK where the rules fore even CARRYING a weapon were unreal. We went to the range once each year and fired off about 8 rounds from the 45, a few from the 38 we normally carried and a full clip from the 30 cal carbine. That was it.
You, sir know far, FAR more about weaponry than do I being an AF guy. We were not exactly known as being the gun slingers of the military.
You might have fired a ‘clip’ from a Garand, but if you emptied an M1 30 cal Carbine you used a magazine. Oh how quickly we forget without practice ...
IIRC, in the book about Carlos Hathcock the great sniper, he and his buddies would take break from the rifle practice to shoot with the 1911 at 50 and 100 yards.
I practice with the King Cobra at 50 sometimes, can get on paper and on occasion into the silhouette, but I really suck (no enough practice, obviously, but there’s only one range within 50 miles and it’s pretty bad)
Interesting.
I had a guy offer me $2,000 in for it one day at the range. I turned him down flat.
Love that rifle.
I paid $1,800 for mine, brand new from the factory.
The model type you described goes for $2,500.
I would not have taken the deal either.
I didn’t “forget” I more than likely never knew the difference. As I said I was a kid in the USAF and aside from knowing the destructive power of our aircraft, which I never flew (but guarded on occasion, I barely knew what end of the “gun” the f’n bullet came out. Nor did I care.
It was the early 1960’s, America ruled, the skies were blue, the women were easy and the drinks were cheap in the UK. What more would a hormone driven 18 yr old be interested in....?
A buddy of mine and I did the glass bed. I bought a mil-surp tiger birch stock from Fred’s and spent hours and hours striping, sanding, and then hand rubbing tung oil into it. I brought all that gorgeous grain up by hand.
It took months to locate the correct “original” scope for it and the mount is a titanium from Fulton. It’s wicked accurate out to 600 yards which is the longest range I’ve got access to. I’d love to see if I could hit anything at a thousand sometime.
I’ve got some handloaded Sierra Match Kings I’m saving for that day.
Best,
L
Yes I am and good looking too.
You would do well to have a little more experience before accepting exaggerated claims from those who are no more experienced than you and passing them on as your own experience or fact. Your own statement concerning the pitifully insufficient training you received and successive lack of experience is no basis for forming an opinion. This kind of ineptitude is what got us the M9 pistol and will likely get us another similar hand gun.
I graduated High School in ‘63. Had it not been for the Chess Team at college, I would probably have missed the entire decade ... just sayin’.
BTW, the revolver in the lower left of that picture at the start, the one that's black with a brown wooden grip looks like it might be one of those Nagant pistols.
Nope, now that I’ve looked more closely, it’s a Webley; British made.
“Yes and I’m good looking too”
I’m sure, not to mention the most self aggrandizing bloviater and ass wipe on t h e forum.
Do me a favor and keep quiet. If I need advice from someone with a God complex and no sense of humor I’ll be sure to get in touch.
Now little billie, you surely are thin skinned. I apologise if your feelings are bruised. Were you really in the Air Force or are you still 15?
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