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California pension funds are running dry
Los Angeles Times ^ | 11/15/2014 | MARC LIFSHER

Posted on 11/15/2014 5:32:20 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: Pearls Before Swine

exactly....welcome to Wiemar...


21 posted on 11/15/2014 6:38:16 PM PST by maxsand
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To: PGalt
$115,555,121,750,381 US UNFUNDED LIABILITIES when I typed this

Hey, it's no problem for the fed gov, as they just print billions more.

Be happy, take a vacation...Go shop...

22 posted on 11/15/2014 6:40:37 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: SeekAndFind

What a shame................


23 posted on 11/15/2014 6:41:46 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: SeekAndFind
New data on California public pensions come at a time of growing anger from taxpayers over the skyrocketing cost of government public workers' retirements.

Oh geee, the LA Times missed the seething anger and contempt 20 years ago, but they finally got the story...

Great job LAT!

Nothing gets by the LAT.

24 posted on 11/15/2014 6:44:38 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: SeekAndFind
The pension fraud in Calif. is out of control. Lived next door to an arsehole ex LA County sheriff that was on 100% disability for a "bad back". Retired him while in his 30's. He was soooo disabled he went mountain biking and water skiing. We tried to bust his worthless butt, but LA County said once the reward was granted, nothing they could do.

The time to prove fraud was during the hearings.

On that note, read years ago about the escalating percentage of firemen that retired on 100% disability increasing with time, to the point that most chiefs were on it. Chiefs do not run into building or do much to risk injury as far as I know, but they do know how to game the system.

25 posted on 11/15/2014 6:47:59 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: 43north
I personally know several mexifornia pensioners here in N. Idaho who moved here to escape the mess they helped to create. May be they can all become Walmart greeters.

That's exactly what is going to happen.

Ya see all these states opened their arms to all these retired CA fire dept, cops and assorted other big gov employees, knowing that had that big dollar gold plated pensions....The residence loved it to thinking it would drive up their already bloated RE values...

Just wait till the wheels come off. The bearings are squealing bad...

26 posted on 11/15/2014 6:53:10 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: SeekAndFind

In 2003 the interest rates were higher and I’m sure the actuaries didn’t dream of near zero interest rates into infinitum. That is not their fault imo.

Bending over backwards for the illegal invaders politically and financially is their fault however.

And cultivating an anti-business environment drove out multitudes of potential taxpayers, and that’s their fault as well.

Maybe they should hit up Hollywood for some bucks.


27 posted on 11/15/2014 6:55:03 PM PST by Paulie (Get off the grid.)
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To: doorgunner69

It’s nearly impossible to get a 100% disability in ca. The percentage applies to the actual physical disability. You have to practically be a quadriplegic.

You dio get a significant tax brake. I’m 55% and only pat taxes on one tenth of my disability retirement. Calipers peace officer retirement.


28 posted on 11/15/2014 6:58:53 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: SeekAndFind

I would love to see government employees feeling the same pain as the rest of us.


29 posted on 11/15/2014 7:00:05 PM PST by x1stcav (Why does Eleanor Clift always look like her private parts are causing her acute pain?)
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To: 43north
All that CA cash that made it's way to all points out of CA will come crashing down...Suddenly all the big spending by tens of thousands of these big gov retirees ends.

And it's going to end.

30 posted on 11/15/2014 7:00:44 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: 43north

The ideal would be on the Washington side of the Columbia. No income tax. Shop in Oregon, no sales tax.


31 posted on 11/15/2014 7:01:38 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: dragnet2

“And it’s going to end.”

Its going to be very ugly when that happens but jerry brown would rather spend those pension funds on illegal invaders.

There is just no rational explanation for what has happened to california.


32 posted on 11/15/2014 7:03:56 PM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED.)
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To: doorgunner69

9/11 was a boon to insurance schemers; plenty of firemen “retired” after that. I’m sure some were legit, but I distinctly remember Giuliani’s dispute with the firemen (when he wanted to remove them from the site when the rescue turned into recovery); they insisted a detail should be there for any recovered firemen’s remains. Any that milked the overtime on those details that subsequently applied for disability related to “breathing issues” should be jailed for life (at the least).

Even worse, and what summed up the northeast’s ills more than anything else, was the next mayor’s response to those who saw employment opportunities in the 343 deaths: They weren’t replacing any of them, as they were overstaffed and looking at layoffs anyway. Think about that: At least 343 extra firemen were on the workfare dole.

Here in northern NJ our infrastructure is crumbling because retirees consume so much current revenue; streets are crumbling, stop signs blocked by foliage, all because we can’t pay people to fix them while simultaneously paying those that did it in the past (who retired twenty years ago).


33 posted on 11/15/2014 7:04:09 PM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: SeekAndFind

As I work in the private sector, I have no concept of what it must be like to have a PENSION coming to me. Screw all of the politicians, the public employees unions, and everyone else responsible for taxing the crap out of me (who will likely be working into my 70’s) to pay for the pensions that these (mostly) useless public “employees” enjoy.


34 posted on 11/15/2014 7:05:33 PM PST by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: SeekAndFind

Taxpayers run bump


35 posted on 11/15/2014 7:06:49 PM PST by 4Liberty (Prejudice and generalizations. That's how Collectivists roll......)
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To: 43north
Its going to be very ugly when that happens but jerry brown would rather spend those pension funds on illegal invaders.

Bet the rent it's going to get ugly.

Lemme tell ya, the GD government is spending more money on tens of millions of illegal aliens, than they do for our military veterans.

The government folks eventually get gang banged like everyone else has and is. And by the very same city, county and state entities they worked for.

36 posted on 11/15/2014 7:10:35 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: SeekAndFind

I have been one of those greedy self employed high income earners for a long long time. Last year I reduced my income by half and only paid Social Security Taxes for the most part, that was still $12k, this year I have reduced it by another 30-40%. I will not be a Slave to Public Pensions again EVER. Next Year I might qualify for an EBT Card, Which will be used exclusively in Las Vegas.


37 posted on 11/15/2014 7:15:35 PM PST by eyeamok
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To: SeekAndFind

Imho if oil goes to $35@ barrel in the next 10 years as I think it will—California’s pensions will be funded in time for the big crunch.


38 posted on 11/15/2014 7:43:04 PM PST by ckilmer (q)
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To: Soul of the South

imho oil will go to $35@ barrel by 2025. As the cost of oil drops, revenues to california’s institutions will rise & they’ll be fully funded before crunch time.


39 posted on 11/15/2014 7:45:24 PM PST by ckilmer (q)
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To: SkyDancer

More illegal—that will fix everything. [/s]


40 posted on 11/15/2014 7:51:33 PM PST by rbg81
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