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Slate/CBS Writer - GOP Anger over Gruber Justified (and video)
Slate ^ | 11/15/2014 | John Dickerson

Posted on 11/15/2014 10:49:31 AM PST by SteveAustin

If only Halloween hadn’t passed, someone could go as MIT’s Jonathan Gruber. He is the economist most likely to get people in Washington to run out of a room. At the moment he is a problem for the Obama administration and Democrats, though he’s spooked Republicans before, too. At an academic panel in 2013, Gruber said of the Affordable Care Act: “This bill was written in a tortured way to make sure” the Congressional Budget Office “did not score the mandate as taxes.” He also said that “lack of transparency is a huge political advantage,” and added, “Call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really, really critical to getting the thing to pass.” The video has surfaced now and conservatives are pointing to the admission as more proof that the Obama administration, which came to town pledging new levels of transparency, was trying to hoodwink voters with the Affordable Care Act........

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; deathpanels; gruber; grubergate; grubering; gruberobamacare; jonathangruber; obama; obamacare; zerocare
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The story is good. The video they dug up from Obama's 2012 campaign is the bombshell. It features Gruber talking up Obamacare in an Obama campaign produced piece. Not sure I posted HTML link below correctly but people need to watch that video the writer uncovered. And someone needs to screen capture the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxZK0spa1yI#t=0m14s

1 posted on 11/15/2014 10:49:31 AM PST by SteveAustin
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To: SteveAustin

We should all be thankful that we have permission from Slate/CBS to be rightful mad!!!


2 posted on 11/15/2014 10:52:15 AM PST by Trueblackman (As a Conservative, I am proud to be on the Obama's enemy list and on the right side of history..)
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To: Trueblackman

I am soooo relieved.


3 posted on 11/15/2014 10:56:19 AM PST by Lake Living
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To: SteveAustin

Whatever. Can’t stand John Dickerson. That SOB is so smug and arrogant, he makes Gruber look good in comparison.


4 posted on 11/15/2014 10:56:58 AM PST by rbg81
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To: SteveAustin

Are the alphabet MenSeekingMen still stuck on just one story apiece?


5 posted on 11/15/2014 10:57:38 AM PST by txhurl (2014: Stunned Voters do Stunning Things!)
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To: SteveAustin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxZK0spa1yI#t=0m14s


6 posted on 11/15/2014 10:58:23 AM PST by JPG (The GOPe will always find a way to surrender)
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To: SteveAustin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxZK0spa1yI#t=0m14s


7 posted on 11/15/2014 10:58:29 AM PST by BwanaNdege (I wonder which side they choose whe)
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To: SteveAustin
clickable https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxZK0spa1yI#t=0m14s.
8 posted on 11/15/2014 10:59:59 AM PST by Steely Tom (Thank you for self-censoring.)
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To: SteveAustin

“Truly I tell you, Nancy Pelosi, this very night, before the rooster crows, you will deny me three times.” Now that was funny!


9 posted on 11/15/2014 11:05:27 AM PST by Lake Living
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To: JPG

Thank you for making the link clickable.

What I’d like the GOP to do is not take the bait on immigration. Rather I’d like to see them get up a national TV ad along these lines:

“Pelosi—we have to pass the bill to find out what’s in it”

Then show the best Gruber videos.

Then show Pelosi saying this week she doesn’t know who Gruber is.

Then show Pelosi and Reid video from 2009 praising Gruber.

End with - The American people care about their healthcare. Obama Lied.

I just think we need an offensive on the Gruber/ACA thing. This resonates as people sign up for their healthcare plans for next year. This is the battlefield where Obama doesn’t want to play. Make him defend it though.


10 posted on 11/15/2014 11:09:38 AM PST by SteveAustin
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To: SteveAustin

Herr Doktor-Professor Oberstleutnant Hans Jonathan (SCHICKL)Gruber (to give him his intellectual origins), has become the closest thing the Current Regime has to an official historian. He lied at the time, but he also revealed how those lies were applied, and his opinion of those toward whom the lies were directed.

Cuffing Nazi.


11 posted on 11/15/2014 11:14:12 AM PST by alloysteel (Most people become who they promised they would never be.)
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The law wasn’t trying to fool the American people, just the Congressional Budget Office. But that’s not much of a case. Given how often the administration has used the Congressional Budget Office as metaphysical guarantors of truth, this argument just lands you back into hoodwink territory.

There isn't really any way to spin this that doesn't end up in hoodwink territory. The law was assembled in haste and secrecy, passed without substantive discussion, and certain of its less palatable features have been illegally suppressed by executive diktat until they are less politically damaging. That turns out to be like tearing a bandaid off a quarter-inch at a time - it isn't an improvement and all it does is make people pay even more attention.

0bamacare is deceptive, mendacious garbage and needs to be dumpstered. Whether it returns in another form or is thankfully forgotten altogether, it needs to be done in an open, bipartisan...dare I say it? Transparent manner.

12 posted on 11/15/2014 11:19:22 AM PST by Billthedrill
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It is NOT just the GOP that is angry


13 posted on 11/15/2014 11:25:31 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Lake Living

Only from someone who does see himself as a Messiah.


14 posted on 11/15/2014 11:29:36 AM PST by gusopol3
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” That means we’re likely to hear Gruber’s name in debates over issues like immigration, in which he has played no role at all.”
Freepers have already there, done refuted that:http://newsbusters.org/blogs/jeffrey-lord/2014/11/14/who-lied-jonathan-gruber-linked-getting-obamacare-illegal-aliens

“And who just happens to be well out there providing the data on illegal immigrants and Obamacare? If you guessed MIT’s Jonathan Gruber, you would be right.”


15 posted on 11/15/2014 11:36:32 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: gusopol3

Amnesty is intricately tied to the Obamacare bill. Thirty percent of the total Obamacare sign ups are illegal aliens, without amnesty, Obamacare is finished and once amnesty is granted, you won’t be able to undo any of it.


16 posted on 11/15/2014 11:39:27 AM PST by Eva
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To: BwanaNdege

Explains why Romney lost the election and makes it very clear why Romney should not be considered in 2016!


17 posted on 11/15/2014 11:41:24 AM PST by TruthWillWin (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
Re:Wonder if he has ever advocated for a single pay system...
http://gotnews.com/breaking-video-gruber-voters-make-single-payer-political-impossibility/

46 posted on 11/15/2014, 10:56:10 AM by Sons of Union Vets (Mine Eyes Have Seen the Glory!)


Another Gruber quote


18 posted on 11/15/2014 11:46:11 AM PST by txhurl (2014: Stunned Voters do Stunning Things!)
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To: Eva

Hi Eva ! Exactly. Gruber and the genius Danielle are two peas from the same pod.


19 posted on 11/15/2014 11:46:22 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: gusopol3

I’ve been thinking that Obama is going for full out Helter Skelter, combine the Ferguson riots with the amnesty issue and get chaos. It is his last chance. The Supreme Court gave him his chance with the ACA and he blew it. It is desperation time.


20 posted on 11/15/2014 11:52:25 AM PST by Eva
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