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Gas is Cheaper. Where are the Grandstanding Politicians?
Townhall.com ^ | November 12, 2014 | Jeff Jacoby

Posted on 11/12/2014 11:39:02 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: Elsie

Link? Naw. Just ran the numbers on what I drive.

I commute about 1200 miles a month.
I get about 4 miles per kWh.
Not sure what my actual bill is, but somewhere around $0.125/kWh.
That’s $37.50 per month to drive my EV.
Now, the Nissan Leaf is a car style which, in internal combustion engine form, gets around 30MPG.
So my Leaf would, if not EV, use about 40 gallons gas per month.
$37.50 divvied up into 40 units equates to gas at $0.9375 per gallon.

BTW, another fellow Leaf driver (there’s 5 of us in a company of 30 people) just observed that the $0.125 includes fixed costs, so figuring you’d pay that anyway with or without an EV, so the actual above-and-beyond electricity cost is about $0.07/kWh.
Run that thru the numbers, and I’m driving an equivalent of $0.525/gal.

Bonus: it has great acceleration, is extremely quiet & smooth, nice interior. I _LIKE_ my EV.


21 posted on 11/12/2014 1:05:22 PM PST by ctdonath2 (You know what, just do it.)
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To: Elsie

Not many.
There are a LOT of EVs in the Atlanta region. So many that some lady stopped me in a parking lot to ask why (well, given the state tax credit it’s $free for 2 year lease...).


22 posted on 11/12/2014 1:08:27 PM PST by ctdonath2 (You know what, just do it.)
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To: ctdonath2

Good post.
(I’m not crazy about the federal and state subsidies these get, but good on you for taking advantage of the situation.)


23 posted on 11/12/2014 1:08:29 PM PST by nascarnation (Impeach, Convict, Deport)
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To: nascarnation

Given I’ve paid somewhere around a half-million dollars in taxes in my lifetime, I’ve no problem with taking advantage of reducing my taxes for a little while. A couple people have sneered at me over getting the tax credit, but as it’s 0.1% of what I’ve paid methinks that’s fair.


24 posted on 11/12/2014 1:12:28 PM PST by ctdonath2 (You know what, just do it.)
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To: ctdonath2

I put it in the same category as claiming all the deductions on your income tax that you are entitled to.


25 posted on 11/12/2014 1:14:04 PM PST by nascarnation (Impeach, Convict, Deport)
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To: old gringo

Indeed.


26 posted on 11/12/2014 3:06:53 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ctdonath2
Do you have a separate meter that logs how many Kw are placed into your car?


Bonus: it has great acceleration, is extremely quiet & smooth, nice interior. I _LIKE_ my EV.

I'll bet!

I had slotcars as a kid. They were FAST!

How does running the heater and/or A/C affect your run distance?

Do you have the LED headlights?

27 posted on 11/12/2014 3:11:12 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ctdonath2
(there’s 5 of us in a company of 30 people)

Do you folks have chargers at work?

28 posted on 11/12/2014 3:12:37 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ctdonath2
(well, given the state tax credit it’s $free for 2 year lease...)

If electrics are so good; why the need to subsidize them?

29 posted on 11/12/2014 3:14:02 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ctdonath2
Given I’ve paid somewhere around a half-million dollars in taxes in my lifetime, I’ve no problem with taking advantage of reducing my taxes for a little while.

AMEN!

Now if I could just get my government from giving my money away to other folks; MINE would go down, too!

30 posted on 11/12/2014 3:16:09 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

HVAC is not a significant power drain. ... Though I am looking forward to a cold day to turn both on full blast and see what happens.

Alas no LED headlights.


31 posted on 11/12/2014 3:55:09 PM PST by ctdonath2 (You know what, just do it.)
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To: Elsie

Too bad EVs are just no fun to drive. Spinning the tires once in a while is a great adrenaline boost! Even by accident hehehe. I’d pay a little more to drive a real car.


32 posted on 11/12/2014 3:55:27 PM PST by bicyclerepair (Ft. Lauderdale FL (zombie land). TERM LIMITS ... TERM LIMITS)
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To: Elsie

The building management company did, by coincidence, install a 220v charger right at my preferred parking spot a month after 8 got the EV. Can do a full charge in 4 hours. Cost is $1/hr for first 4 hours, $20/hr after (now let someone else charge).


33 posted on 11/12/2014 4:12:09 PM PST by ctdonath2 (You know what, just do it.)
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To: Kaslin

I hope someone remembers to top-off the SPR while the price of oil is low.


34 posted on 11/12/2014 5:13:55 PM PST by clearcarbon
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To: clearcarbon

Last I checked it was at 95%.
Not sure if they are functionally able to go beyond that or not.


35 posted on 11/12/2014 5:14:44 PM PST by nascarnation (Impeach, Convict, Deport)
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To: ctdonath2
" . . . + gov’t tax credits"

So you're here to thank us for your subsidizing you?

36 posted on 11/12/2014 5:21:13 PM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Elsie

Subsidies are needed because of the chicken-and-egg problem: nobody wants to buy or lease a $30,000 car they can’t “refill” anywhere but home, and nobody wants to install a $15-45,000 fast charger if nobody has electric cars. Subsidize the cars unto free for a two year lease, and deep discounts for installing chargers, and lots of people will make it happen. In my case, I desperately needed a new car but didn’t have the funds, could get by without a public charger, and commute well within battery range; unthinkable under normal conditions, subsidies made it a no brainer - and now the Atlanta region has a robust infrastructure and enthusiasm for EVs.


37 posted on 11/12/2014 5:24:18 PM PST by ctdonath2 (You know what, just do it.)
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To: Rashputin

I’ve paid some $500,000 in taxes. I’m getting a brief 1% break.

I don’t owe you thanks for the gov’t giving me a brief dip in confiscatory tax rates any more than you owe me thanks for deductions on your income tax.

We can both agree that taxes are too damn high and as net tax payers at near slave rates we should be taking every deduction and credit we can.


38 posted on 11/12/2014 5:42:19 PM PST by ctdonath2 (You know what, just do it.)
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To: ctdonath2
If you're paying so much in taxes then the trivial bit you steal from other people's taxes can't possibly make any difference and is something you should have enough self respect not to do.

Well, unless you make that bundle you pay taxes on by sucking down other people's money via grants and tax payer funded contracts. In that case, sure, taking another percent or so is no big deal.

39 posted on 11/12/2014 8:18:47 PM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Rashputin

Is taking the mortgage deduction on your income tax “stealing”? No difference. Ya freaking Leftist, thinking money I earned is yours and if I reduce my lawful tax obligation I’m somehow stealing. A 1% reduction on a net half million dollars paid and I’m “stealing”? Shove off.


40 posted on 11/13/2014 3:07:42 AM PST by ctdonath2 (You know what, just do it.)
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