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Winston Churchill's 'bid to nuke Russia' to win Cold War - uncovered in secret FBI files
Mail Online ^ | 9 November 2014 | DANIEL BATES

Posted on 11/09/2014 10:16:24 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki

Winston Churchill urged the United States to launch a nuclear attack on the Soviet Union to win the Cold War, a newly released document reveals.

The previously unseen memorandum from the FBI archives details how Britain’s wartime leader made his views known to a visiting American politician in 1947.

Churchill believed a pre-emptive strike on Stalin’s Russia might be the only way to stop Communism conquering the West.

The note, written by an FBI agent, reports that Churchill urged Right-wing Republican Senator Styles Bridges to persuade President Harry Truman to launch a nuclear attack which would ‘wipe out’ the Kremlin and make the Soviet Union a ‘very easy problem’ to deal with.

The Russians would have been defenceless against a nuclear attack at that time – they did not successfully test their own atomic bomb until 1949.

Britain and the Soviet Union had been allies in the Second World War until 1945, the year Churchill lost office as Prime Minister. But he was one of the first international statesmen to recognise the post-war threat posed by the USSR, and in 1946 made a famous speech in Fulton, Missouri, about an ‘iron curtain’ having descended across Europe as Joseph Stalin consolidated his grip on the eastern half of the continent.

The FBI document shows Churchill’s belligerence towards Britain’s former wartime ally ran so deep that he was prepared to tolerate the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Soviet civilians in a nuclear strike.

The memo claims Churchill ‘stated that the only salvation for the civilisation of the world would be if the President of the United States would declare Russia to be imperilling world peace and attack Russia’. The note continues: ‘He pointed out that if an atomic bomb could be dropped on the Kremlin, wiping it o

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: churchill; coldwar; russia; truman; unitedkingdom; ussr; winstonchurchill
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1 posted on 11/09/2014 10:16:24 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Where is Dan Rather and his typewriter?


2 posted on 11/09/2014 10:17:54 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I knew I liked Churchill.

We totally could have destroyed Stalin in the 40s, and should have.


3 posted on 11/09/2014 10:19:07 AM PST by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Churchill believed a pre-emptive strike on Stalin’s Russia might be the only way to stop Communism conquering the West.

Would such a "butterfly-like" effect have been triggered by a strike in 1947, that the communists would have been prevented from taking power of the US in 2008?

4 posted on 11/09/2014 10:20:46 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

He was obviously quite correct. One good nuke on the Kremlin and millions of lives would have been saved. Even today, the heirs of the Communist regime in Moscow are still out raping and killing. Communism destroyed that country and rendered most Russians into chauvinists and happy slaves who don’t care how bad they live so long as they don’t have to take responsibility for their own lives.


5 posted on 11/09/2014 10:22:00 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Bad idea.

Truman gutted the armed forces, especially the Army, after 1945, to the extent that we had a major problem handling one third world country’s invasion of another in Korea. Britain was in worse shape, and we hadn’t even started building NATO yet. I think it’s ludicrous to think we could have handled the Red Army rolling westward.

The only way such a sneak attack could have worked is if it had decapitated the Soviet system and USSR had disintegrated into chaos. That’s possible, but I think any such attack in 1947 would have been a very bad idea.


6 posted on 11/09/2014 10:24:22 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: C210N

It’s highly possible. Obama is the product of what happens after decades of Russian subversion in the West. Obama’s self-proclaimed “mentor” Frank Marshall Davis has a rather thick FBI file.


7 posted on 11/09/2014 10:24:28 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Well that’s nice, considering Russia pretty much bailed Britain’s butts out during WWII. Germany’s ill-fated decision to invade Russia took so much pressure off of Britain.


8 posted on 11/09/2014 10:31:14 AM PST by Bettyprob
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Obama’s self-proclaimed “mentor” Frank Marshall Davis

Fathers tend to be rather strong mentors, self-proclaimed or otherwise.

9 posted on 11/09/2014 10:31:19 AM PST by Prince Caspian
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Dunno about conquering the west, but when Stalin demanded enslaving Poland, et al, as reparations for lost Russian lives, we should have nuked Russia. Instead of nuking them, we acquiesced. Hitler murdered 11 million. Stalin did much worse.
10 posted on 11/09/2014 10:33:45 AM PST by LouAvul (If government is the answer, you're asking the wrong question.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
The Black Book of Communism

EVERY Conservative should have a copy of this on their bookshelf.
11 posted on 11/09/2014 10:37:12 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Sounds like Patton and Winnie were on the same page.


12 posted on 11/09/2014 10:38:08 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

>>He was obviously quite correct. One good nuke on the Kremlin and millions of lives would have been saved. <<

Last number I heard (from many years ago) was Stalin killed 8 million Soviet people. Was it not he who said “a single death is a tragedy — a million deaths is a statistic?”


13 posted on 11/09/2014 10:38:14 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Zimmerman, Brown, Fast & Furious, IRS harassment, Philly ignorance: holdering in 1st degree)
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To: C210N

We should have nuked kenya just for giggles


14 posted on 11/09/2014 10:38:20 AM PST by al baby (Hi MomÂ…)
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To: Bettyprob

“Well that’s nice, considering Russia pretty much bailed Britain’s butts out during WWII.”

Hardly. Yes, “Germany’s ill-fated decision to invade Russia took so much pressure off of Britain,” but Russia was all for a German invasion of England and as much, if not more, of an enemy of England as the Nazis.

Russia didn’t “bail” anyone’s butts out but their own, and they would have fallen but for American supplies. The fact that the Russian front helped England is happenstance.


15 posted on 11/09/2014 10:40:20 AM PST by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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To: TheThirdRuffian; Bettyprob

Plus, Stalin had plans to attack Germany — Hitler struck first, but the end result was going to be the same no matter who executed their plan of attack first.


16 posted on 11/09/2014 10:42:14 AM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Asperges me, Domine, hyssopo et mundabor, Lavabis me, et super nivem dealbabor.)
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To: Bettyprob

Russia started the war with Germany when they signed the Non-Aggression Pact.

Stalin knew it would start the war in the West.


17 posted on 11/09/2014 10:42:24 AM PST by dfwgator (The "Fire Muschamp" tagline is back!)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

And most of the Russian war deaths were due to Stalin’s incompetence.


18 posted on 11/09/2014 10:43:14 AM PST by dfwgator (The "Fire Muschamp" tagline is back!)
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To: Bettyprob

Well that’s nice, considering Russia pretty much bailed Britain’s butts out during WWII. Germany’s ill-fated decision to invade Russia took so much pressure off of Britain.

Russia didn’t bail out anyone. They fought like hell to keep from going under. Winter and the USA saved their a$$e$ after Germany attacked them. If anything the USA bailed them both out with our amazing productive capacity and security behind two oceans.


19 posted on 11/09/2014 10:43:22 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Bettyprob
Well that’s nice...

Maybe Churchill was upset that Stalin reneged on the "Percentages Agreement" (a rather naive plan of Churchill's to divide Eastern Europe into Soviet and British spheres of influence).

Percentages Agreement

20 posted on 11/09/2014 10:44:05 AM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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