Posted on 10/30/2014 3:56:30 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
The critical reckoning over forced quarantines is still to come.
Consider this scenario.
Sometime in January or February – as the Ebola epidemic explodes out of West Africa – we’ll start experiencing larger, more frequent outbreaks in American cities. With the flu as a background to confound suspected cases of Ebola, public health departments will be hard pressed to “track and trace” all of the potential “contacts” when perhaps dozens of Ebola cases pop up in their cities.
Unable to pinpoint who might have come in close contact with Ebola, and be at risk of contracting the virus, they will reach for their most absolute tool – forced quarantine – as a way to mitigate threat amidst uncertainty. The number of people who will be placed into forced quarantines could easily number in the hundreds.
If this scenario sounds far fetched, take a closer look at the accelerating epidemic in West Africa. If the rate of spread doesn’t start to subside soon (there are some encouraging signs of deceleration in Liberia, but spread is accelerating in Guinea and Sierra Leone) it’s just a matter of time before Ebola breaks out to a region with closer connections to the U.S. — like Latin America. Once it goes to such a market, and becomes epidemic, the U.S. would be importing far more than the sporadic case.
(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...
Bring it.
My wife and I got flu shots for the first time in 30 years. We decided that this was a poor year to go to a doctor’s office with flu symptoms.
Black plague, Typhoid...
You read these articles and wonder if they truly grasp the danger they are making light of.
For each inconvenienced person, we could be talking about hundreds if not thousands of other people ultimately inconvenienced.
Does that carry no weight at all? Evidently not.
Good point!
Heresy!! Hasn’t Forbes heard the obummer zero chance speech or heard Sheppard Smith’s rants on Fox?
My husband gets a flu shot every year. Here’s the thing: when it seems that everything someone does appears to be at odds with what they are saying, it makes sense to conclude that their agenda is at odds with their stated policy.
Real quarantines? Or like this bum ditch nurse in Maine? And will Obama allow it?
Another major thing that it turns out the government has not already done, working out the details of quarantining.
Over and over we keep learning that the government has not really been effectively preparing for bioterrorism and biowarfare even though we have read for decades of exercises, training, massive purchases of gear and drugs, and billions of dollars spent.
How could quarantine law be so unrefined and unprepared in 2014?
The law is prepared. It’s the numbskulls that are dancing with it that are unprepared, as they are performing policy by wishing - with a disease.
And furthermore, it’s pretty obvious.
Regarding quarantines from article:
This begs the question, how will state and federal governments exercise their authority to quarantine people in such a scenario.
snip
Under current law, the federal government is responsible for quarantining individuals traveling from outside the U.S. or between states, while state governments have quarantine authority over people traveling within state boundaries.
Federal and state governments must have a factual basis to support a quarantine. There must be a plausible reason to believe that a person placed in quarantine was exposed to a suspect pathogen, or might be incubating the disease.
snip
The Bush Administration attempted to set out more parameters around how quarantine would be used in a public health emergency such as a bioterrorist act, by issuing a new regulation interpreting the decades-old legal authority. But in trying to spell out some general parameters, the Bush-era rule also exposed just how absolute and intrusive the underlying legal authority is.
snip
Instead of grappling with these concerns, and tightening some of the parameters around how quarantine would be used through a revised regulation, the Obama Administration abruptly pulled the rule, and replaced it with nothing. President Obama signed a patchwork of executive orders to give CDC clear quarantine authority in regards to some emerging respiratory pathogens like SARS and MERS. But the regulation interpreting the federal quarantine authority remained outdated.
As a result, we are left with the worst of both worlds — a sweeping legal authority with no modern regulation laying out its terms
Big snip [calls for clarity on issue of quarantine]
For a start, the Obama Administration could resurrect the Bush quarantine rule, and start implementing the parts that people agree on.
Bush’s EO
Executive Order 13295 of April 4, 2003: Revised List of Quarantinable Communicable Diseases
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3221176/posts
Obama’s EO
there was a new executive order July 31, 2014
Never had ONE flu shot. Never will! Buck up and be careful.
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2000/11/26/flu-shots-part-two.aspx
Do you want any of the following vaccine constituents in YOUR bloodstream?
•Ethylene glycol (antifreeze)
•Phenol, also known as carbolic acid (this is used as a disinfectant, dye)
•Formaldehyde, a known cancer-causing agent
•Aluminum, which is associated with Alzheimer’s disease and seizures and also cancer producing in laboratory mice (it is used as an additive to promote antibody response)
•Thimerosal (a mercury disinfectant/preservative) can result in brain injury and autoimmune disease
•Neomycin and Streptomycin (used as antibiotics) have caused allergic reaction in some people.
Norovirus will be FAR worse than flu in confounding the Ebola situation this winter as it quickly involves high fever, fierce vomiting, and fierce diarrhea. Norovirus is also extremely contagious, quickly cutting through cruise ships, schools, and old folks homes.
We decided that this was a poor year to go to a doctor’s office with flu symptoms.
Yes, I want all that stuff in my bloodstream.
For Pete’s sake, the amounts are tiny.
Will you pass on the ebola vaccine, too? Or do you just skip vaccines where the herd immunity of those who have been vaccinated makes it unlikely that you will be exposed?
In law is a pharmacist at several nursing homes. Two female patients (40-50’s) contracted Guillain-Barre from flu shots.
Had that for a couple of days in mid June.
Nasty, nasty.
Generally when I see references to Mercola it’s on Daily Kos or another loonyleft site I happen to be trolling.
Unfortunately, anti-vaxxers come in all political stripes.
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