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Three pioneering women in Marine infantry course are asked to leave. Why?
Christian Science Monitor ^ | October 24, 2014 | Anna Mulrine

Posted on 10/26/2014 11:25:52 AM PDT by Timber Rattler

Just weeks after three women passed a rigorous day-long test qualifying them to potentially lead US Marine infantrymen for the first time in history, news came that all three women have been asked to leave the course.

They were physically disqualified from the training last week for falling behind in hikes while carrying loads of upwards of 100 pounds, says Maj. George Flynn, director of the Infantry Officers Course (IOC) at Quantico, Va.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: marines; miltary; usmc; women
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Because they couldn't keep up with the men.

'nuff said.

1 posted on 10/26/2014 11:25:52 AM PDT by Timber Rattler
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To: Timber Rattler

“...three miles per hour...”

Hey, I feel good about myself. I can easily walk 2 mph, for at least 2 miles!

However, I doubt I could walk 10 feet carrying 100 pounds, so that part’s against me.


2 posted on 10/26/2014 11:28:45 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: Timber Rattler

I am a female and I say get them out if they can’t do the job. It is life and death not fantasy about we wish it was.


3 posted on 10/26/2014 11:29:50 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Timber Rattler

An O-4 is in charge of one of the Marine Corps’ most important training venues? I highly doubt that.


4 posted on 10/26/2014 11:30:21 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: Timber Rattler

Why? Because they are too damn slow and are endangering the others, that’s why.


5 posted on 10/26/2014 11:30:41 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Timber Rattler

The instructors ask: “Hey, where’s your unit right now? OK, you need to get up with them, because you’re not leading anyone from back here.”

From that point, the officers have about five minutes to start catching up. If they don’t, they are put in a truck.


6 posted on 10/26/2014 11:33:30 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: Timber Rattler

Sounds like the officers need to be disciplined and the course changed to allow them to only have to carry 25 pound packs over shorter distances with more time allowed.

Or perhaps each woman in the platoon can be assigned a man to carry her pack as well as his. See how well the men hold up with 200 pound loads.

Because we all know the most important thing is to observe political correctness.


7 posted on 10/26/2014 11:33:49 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: Timber Rattler

Is this the gay Marines or the other kind?


8 posted on 10/26/2014 11:34:16 AM PDT by donna (Pray for revival.)
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Maybe they just need some reasonable accommodations made for them.


9 posted on 10/26/2014 11:37:39 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (The IRS: either criminally irresponsible in backup procedures or criminally responsible of coverup.)
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To: Timber Rattler

The article leaves this as not being so clear cut. While I was in the Navy, not the Marines, I do think they need to give this more consideration, especially if the pace is not regulated and most everyone failed. Moving the goal posts to create failures is just as bad as moving them to create passes. At the end of the day the Marines, like all services, need to find ways to bring women into combat, to respect that they can and should be equal participants, that they have different physical limits. Besides, does EVERYONE need to carry a 124 pound backpack?! Is that what we really want selection of officers based on?


10 posted on 10/26/2014 11:38:39 AM PDT by Reno89519 (For every illegal with a job, there's an American without one.)
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To: yldstrk

The mere fact they are women should be the dis-qualifier.

Sorry if that offends, but women should not be on the front lines in US Armed Forces period. No pun intended.


11 posted on 10/26/2014 11:40:50 AM PDT by wita
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I rather doubt they were carrying 108 pounds each. In my day in the Nam, a riflemen carried around 85 pounds, a grenadier around 90. The real studs were the M60 gunners and their assistants who were packing around 105 each.

The article is so slanted and touchy-feely.


12 posted on 10/26/2014 11:41:26 AM PDT by x1stcav (I was an Infantry Officer back in the 60's. I have no fear.)
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To: wita

Correct. There are plenty of places women can do good work, but the front lines ain’t it. I speak as a former military officer who is female.


13 posted on 10/26/2014 11:42:42 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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...The Marines, like all services, need to find ways to bring women into combat.

No they don't.

14 posted on 10/26/2014 11:42:58 AM PDT by clintonh8r ( BRILLIANT, WITTY (but incendiary)TAG LINE REMOVED BY MODERATORS.)
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To: Timber Rattler

If they were trying to join the Japanese Self-Defense Forces, they would have been told to take a haiku.


15 posted on 10/26/2014 11:43:49 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why? Obama is the CIC. Why would you doubt it? I’m more surprised they arent having it run by Al and Jessie in the name of social justice.


16 posted on 10/26/2014 11:43:55 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart ("Refusing to vote against unprincipled people made Obama President. " - agere_contra)
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"Besides, does EVERYONE need to carry a 124 pound backpack?!"

Ask that question to the survivors of the Chosin Reservoir and see what they say.

17 posted on 10/26/2014 11:44:48 AM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik
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To: Timber Rattler

Sure is a different world than the one I grew up in.

When I was going through the FIRST Co-Ed Training Platoon at FJSC in 1979, it was REALLY tiring for us gals to drag the guys along.

It ain’t braggin’ if’n you can do it! :)

(Today, closing in on 55? Not so much, LOL!)


18 posted on 10/26/2014 11:45:25 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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While I was in the Navy, not the Marines ... At the end of the day the Marines, like all services, need to find ways to bring women into combat
It'll be a VERY cold day in hell when we start taking recommendations from a squid - especially about being in combat.
19 posted on 10/26/2014 11:46:27 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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if ya can't run with the bigdogs, you best stay on the porch...
20 posted on 10/26/2014 11:46:35 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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