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No, Egg Freezing Won’t Let Women Have It All
National Review ^ | 10/23/2014 | Madison V. Peace

Posted on 10/23/2014 7:15:53 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 10/23/2014 7:15:53 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Corporate life is way over rated...freezing eggs to climb the corporate ladder is the ultimate in self centeredness...what...you going to make a baby when you are 50? We are not designed to be mothers at that age...for a reason....


2 posted on 10/23/2014 7:27:59 AM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods)
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To: SeekAndFind
Biologically, women were meant to start having babies starting at around age 13. Humans invented adolescence which created a rule that babies were a no-no until marriage. Then women added further delays so they could have careers. Bottom line, many women these days are very late when it comes to having babies.
3 posted on 10/23/2014 7:30:02 AM PDT by Cry if I Wanna
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To: goodnesswins

I happen to know that, even as a male, that your prime “career building” years are the same years as those you can be energetic enough to keep up with kids.

These women waiting until their 40’s or 50’s are headed for a huge tired out heartbreak.

Have them young. The Bible doesn’t mention this bit of advice for nothing.


4 posted on 10/23/2014 7:30:04 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: SeekAndFind

More likely reason is no one wants to marry them.


5 posted on 10/23/2014 7:32:49 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: MrB

Yes, the biology gets in the way doesn’t it?

The prime fertility of both males and females is when then they are young.

Fertility in both men and women declines as they get older.

There is both the issue of having the energy to keep up with young children, and the issue of your physical capabilities of conceiving children.

Maybe all of this may make us see that traditional families, with a stay at home mother, make sense in ways which people haven’t thought about. Maybe it makes sense for mothers to have children in their 20s, while her husband goes out and works hard in a career to support the family.

I’ve heard so often of people waiting to have children until some goal is reached, or some optimal time in their lives happens.


6 posted on 10/23/2014 7:39:15 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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To: MrB

Yup...at around age 44 I became an instant grandmother to 4 (son married DIL who already had 3 kids...they added one more)...it was exhausting...could not imagine being a parent at that age


7 posted on 10/23/2014 7:39:18 AM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods)
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To: SeekAndFind

Sounds a little like the beginning of the movie Idiocracy.


8 posted on 10/23/2014 7:42:46 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Psalm 127 gives us direction. I did not know nor heed this, now I’m a tired older daddy...

Psalm 127
3 Lo, children are a heritage of Jehovah; And the fruit of the womb is his reward.

4 As arrows in the hand of a mighty man, So are the children of youth.

5 Happy is the man that hath his quiver full of them: They shall not be put to shame, When they speak with their enemies in the gate.


9 posted on 10/23/2014 7:44:36 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: SeekAndFind
The general idea is this: Focus on building your career now; focus on building your family later.

When I taught Personnel Management, one class session was devoted to managing your own career (if you don't manage your own career, someone else will manage it for you and you might not like it). I would advise the women in my class, imitate Margaret Thatcher and Indira Gandhi: have your family first, then become Prime Minister.

10 posted on 10/23/2014 7:48:19 AM PDT by JoeFromSidney (Book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. Available from Amazon.)
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Of course, women’s magazines will never talk about Sarah Palin as a role model.

Because those magazines are part of the liberal media establishment, they can’t acknowledge that Sarah truly has it all.

Sarah has it all, because she rose to the top of her chosen career field, and has a wonderful husband and wonderful family life, all at the same time.


11 posted on 10/23/2014 7:54:28 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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In the early days of our country, women would get married in their late teens and begin their family. If they were healthy they would have a baby at least every other year until their middle 40s. That is how a fruitful country does it.


12 posted on 10/23/2014 8:04:17 AM PDT by Slyfox (To put on the mind of George Washington read all of Deuteronomy 28)
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To: goodnesswins

To demand that you delay having children until your late 30s or 40s via surgical intervention doesn’t sound like family friendliness.

A better change is eliminating the expectation that you have to work 60+ hours to be considered dedicated to work. Or that more hours equals more productivity or greater ability.


13 posted on 10/23/2014 8:07:33 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: Cry if I Wanna

I had to face some real idiots when pregnant at 25 with my first child in the tech field. The guys generally had no problem except “for the love of God, do NOT throw up in the clean room”.
The educated women, the feminists who were in their 30s and 40s, acted as if I were too young. The argument that I’d been married several years already was no help, it was as if I were compounding the matter by marrying “young”. It was funny asking a few of them if/when they’d ever have kids, because at ten years older, they were running out of time. While one woman did have children at 38, 39 and 42, that is the very rare exception.
The women on the production line though, in their 50s and older, do electronic assembly were generally very supportive. They’d typically had kids at 20, 25, 30 and so forth. To them, my decisions and life schedule were normal.

Too many feminists saying “have it all” pretty much mean “except kids” or “single trophy child”.


14 posted on 10/23/2014 8:12:11 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: Slyfox

Also 2/3 child mortality rates.


15 posted on 10/23/2014 8:13:57 AM PDT by tbw2
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Not necessarily. I do genealogical searches and I am amazed at the number of families during that time who would easily have eight to twelve children, most of which grew to adulthood.


16 posted on 10/23/2014 8:18:31 AM PDT by Slyfox (To put on the mind of George Washington read all of Deuteronomy 28)
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To: goodnesswins
Yup...at around age 44 I became an instant grandmother to 4 (son married DIL who already had 3 kids...they added one more)...it was exhausting...could not imagine being a parent at that age

Exactly. My kids were grown up and out of the house before I turned 50 (just a couple years ago). Can't imagine starting out now - even if I was in my mid 40s. Raising children is a younger person's job in my opinion. Besides, what child wants to be raised by cranky, grouchy middle-aged parents? I know a few parents who had children in middle age and I don't think it worked out too well for the kids.

On top of that, women who are "career-minded" aren't going to suddenly become stay-at-home "Donna Reed" types in middle age.

17 posted on 10/23/2014 8:20:22 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: Slyfox; Cry if I Wanna
"If they were healthy they would have a baby at least every other year until their middle 40s. That is how a fruitful country does it."

If they were healthy and they nursed their own children including nighttime breastfeeding, they would have a baby approx. every 2-3 years until their middle 40s. That is how a fruitful country that preserves healthy child-spacing, low infant mortality and vital mother-child bonding does it.

18 posted on 10/23/2014 8:22:38 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (When I grow up, I'm gonna settle down, chew honeycomb & drive a tractor, grow things in the ground.)
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To: Slyfox

I also do a LOT of genealogy. When women married a second time it was usually because the first husband died in a work-related death or as a soldier.

In contrast, many women died in childbirth. Having younger siblings always created the risk that the earlier children would lose their mother. Many times widowers left with young children married a second time to have someone raise the first batch, and also to create a few more.

Of course, both sexes die of disease. In any case, bIology dictates it is far more common for men to have lots of children, and often well past 50.


19 posted on 10/23/2014 8:52:24 AM PDT by StayAt HomeMother
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When women have children late in life they rob their child of a mother and their children of a grandmother. So, while a women “has it all” their children get nothing. Greedy, self-centered, liberals, but I repeat myself.


20 posted on 10/23/2014 8:55:43 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam should be outlawed and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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