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Before the Ebola Czar launches vaccine production, remember how bad Obama Screwed up H1N1
4 your Country ^ | 10/17/2014 | 4YourCountry

Posted on 10/17/2014 6:09:50 PM PDT by 4yourcountry

We have known about the H1N1 (Swine Flu), risk for many months now. We knew that last spring's outbreak would turn into a more virulent strain by this fall. That is all basic science. Concerned for our citizens, the government recognized the need to produce substantial volumes of vaccine. We have spent more than $2.2B for H1N1 Swine flu. To date, only a minor amount of this vaccine has been delivered, but concern seems muted. Despite new vaccine manufacturing technologies, we persist in using outdated methods and to spend huge sums of money in a wasteful manner. Why? .....

....So, we are spending dramatically more money. We have all the best minds focused on the subject. Every resources of government is focused on success. Obama has every resource he has requested. We have been spending the last 4 years realigning efforts for pandemic. And, we are 210M doses short of plan for H1N1. When the vaccine does become available, the pandemic will likely have run its course killing more people than died in the (supposed) last government lead disaster (Katrina). Is this smart government?....

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TOPICS: Anthrax Scare; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bloggers; ebola; pimpmyblog

1 posted on 10/17/2014 6:09:50 PM PDT by 4yourcountry
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To: 4yourcountry

The title was a little unclear. Is someone considering producing an EBOLA vaccine? I haven’t heard this, but they have serious loose screws if they think I’ll take a US Gov Ebola shot.


2 posted on 10/17/2014 6:17:36 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: 4yourcountry

BTTT


3 posted on 10/17/2014 6:18:32 PM PDT by kitkat (STORM HEAVEN WITH PRAYERS FOR OUR COUNTRY)
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To: 4yourcountry

Is there a reason this article was excerpted?

Why not post the entire thing?

Will the author give permission to doing so?


4 posted on 10/17/2014 6:44:47 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: DesertRhino

https://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-u-requests-production-plans-ebola-drug-zmapp-183307513—finance.html


5 posted on 10/17/2014 6:57:09 PM PDT by 4yourcountry (http://www.twitter.com/4yourcountry)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Sorry I did not post the whole thing. Was on mobile. Here it is:

We have known about the H1N1 (Swine Flu), risk for many months now. We knew that last spring’s outbreak would turn into a more virulent strain by this fall. That is all basic science. Concerned for our citizens, the government recognized the need to produce substantial volumes of vaccine. We have spent more than $2.2B for H1N1 Swine flu. To date, only a minor amount of this vaccine has been delivered, but concern seems muted. Despite new vaccine manufacturing technologies, we persist in using outdated methods and to spend huge sums of money in a wasteful manner. Why?

Here is a bit of background....

Clinton (HRC) pushed the Vaccines for Children policy in 1993, which caused most manufactures to exit the industry
In early part of Bush administration R&D in vaccine research was dramatically increased
2004 season: a combination of fewer manufactures and accusations of Bush incompetence resulted in ~40M dose short fall vs. plan of 100M doses for season flu
Fear of Bird flu and other emerging pandemics led Democrats to accuse Bush administration of multiple failings. Budgets for pandemic research and preparedness were increased substantially (more than $4B over 2005-2007 time frame)
Additional $1.5B was authorized in Spring of 2009 to produce H1N1 vaccine. Total spend for H1N1 Vaccine of approximately $2.2B
By Fall of 2009, only 11.3M doses of a planned 250M doses have been delivered. HHS claims there have been minor “glitches”, DHS claims all is per plan
Critical study shows vaccine will arrive too late for impact on H1N1
1,000 3,900 people have died so far in US (if you recall 1,494 died in Katrina apparently because of Bush’s failing and global warming, which is also Bush’s fault)
Main Stream Media is mum on whole issue, Fox (non) News is not
My frustration comes from a few issues. The historic process of making vaccines in egg shells is arcane and subject to numerous production risks that can result in last minute issues like contamination (cause of 40M dose shortage in 2004). Liability clauses discourage drug manufactures from manufacturing vaccine, and Government is unwilling to wave terms. Companies like Novavax (www.novavax.com) have had a novel technique, using virus like particles to make large volumes of vaccine, for many years, but government continues to buy from companies using old egg technique. Per the time line below, Democrats have put huge amount of effort and money into realigning national efforts for pandemic response (and ridicule of the past administration for its failures) but seem to deliver worse results.

So, we are spending dramatically more money. We have all the best minds focused on the subject. Every resources of government is focused on success. Obama has every resource he has requested. We have been spending the last 4 years realigning efforts for pandemic. And, we are 210M doses short of plan for H1N1. When the vaccine does become available, the pandemic will likely have run its course killing more people than died in the (supposed) last government lead disaster (Katrina). Is this smart government?

Frankly, had government instead focused less than a $1 billion on new production techniques like those of innovative companies (Novavax, etc), we would have all the vaccine we would ever need. Where are the hearings? Where is the outrage? Where is our money? Is this how stimulus is being spent? Does anyone in Congress actually think about a problem, look at the fundamentals, and perhaps question why we are still building vaccine the way we did in 1940? Great innovation guys, where are our coffins?


6 posted on 10/17/2014 6:58:42 PM PDT by 4yourcountry (http://www.twitter.com/4yourcountry)
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” Liability clauses discourage drug manufactures from manufacturing vaccine, and Government is unwilling to wave terms”

Vaccine manufacturers were totally indemnified in 1986.


7 posted on 10/17/2014 7:03:54 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: 4yourcountry

Buckwheat wants your white ass dead. He wants your children, your grandchildren and your great-grandchildren dead. Nothing pleasures Buckwheat more than dead white people. Everything he says and every act he does shows that he is the ultimate racist.


8 posted on 10/17/2014 7:15:54 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: Black Agnes

They were only waved for contracted manufactures, not innovators. So if someone builds a drug competing with a contracted source, they also need to shield liability.


9 posted on 10/17/2014 7:30:17 PM PDT by 4yourcountry (http://www.twitter.com/4yourcountry)
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To: 4yourcountry; All

NEVER FORGET! This BEAST CANNOT be our next President!

http://online.wsj.com/articles/SB106091266280731300

“The root of this government role goes back to August 1993, when Congress passed Mrs. Clinton’s Vaccines for Children program. A dream of Hillary’s friends at the Children’s Defense Fund, her vaccines plan was to use federal power to ensure universal immunization. So the government agreed to purchase a third of the national vaccine supply (the Clintons had pushed for 100%) at a forced discount of half price, then distribute it to doctors to deliver to the poor and the un- and under-insured.

The result is a cautionary tale for anyone who favors national health care. Already very high in 1993, childhood vaccination rates barely budged. A General Accounting Office report at the time noted that “vaccines are already free” for the truly needy through programs like Medicaid. Meanwhile, however, the Hillary project dealt the vaccine industry another financial body blow.”


10 posted on 10/17/2014 7:34:59 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: 4yourcountry

The little guys don’t do manufacturing and distribution.

And they usually get bought by the majors.


11 posted on 10/17/2014 7:46:30 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Good reminder.


12 posted on 10/17/2014 7:49:46 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: 4yourcountry

There have been 4500 or so die in Africa so far from ebola. There are around 36000 people die every year from the flu in the USA alone. What is the big panic?


13 posted on 10/17/2014 7:50:06 PM PDT by Figment
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To: Black Agnes

Prior to 1993 there were a lot of little guys doing manufacturing and distribution.


14 posted on 10/17/2014 7:51:18 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton

Consolidation happened with the pharma industry in general.

There were a lot more pharma companies in 1993 than today.


15 posted on 10/17/2014 7:52:21 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

While true, there was a complete collapse in small vaccine makers after the 1993 bill. By late 1995, most were gone.


16 posted on 10/17/2014 7:56:09 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton

This isn’t uncommon in crony regulated industries in general. Telecom, energy, rail, etc.


17 posted on 10/17/2014 7:57:43 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: 4yourcountry

Hey Obama, be a MAN - Implement a travel BAN!!


18 posted on 10/17/2014 8:09:48 PM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: Figment

“What is the big panic?”

Underscores our porous border and how easily someone could bio-nuke us, IMHO.

I’m not panicked, I’m vigilant. Just doing the job that CONGRESS and our _RESIDENT won’t do! :)


19 posted on 10/18/2014 6:24:04 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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