For the guy on the right---->
Posted on 10/08/2014 8:14:18 PM PDT by Prospero
CORE body temp. is 98.6 f. The temperature in the rest of the body is a gradient depending on many factors. Ambient temp, cardiac output, etc. skin temp is close to meaningless.
What makes you think that? AFAIK, no evidence has yet been presented of transmission to humans during the incubation period.
A very logical summation.
It looks to me like he acted admirably in trying to help a sick young woman. He probably didn’t know, at the time, that she had Ebola. There are still less that 10k cases in 10 months in three countries.
But obviously it’s on everybody’s minds there, and I’m sure a lot of people run fast in the other direction whenever somebody comes down sick. That he tried to help at what he had to have known was some considerable risk to himself was admirable.
She then died before he left the country, and it is obvious he must have heard of what, and known at that point he had been exposed. So from then on his behavior was a good deal less admirable.
I think nobody has yet really internalized that in the modern globalized world, it is quite simply impossible to stop the spread of a disease like this at national or continental borders. So in psychological self defense we project our anxieties and fears onto the individuals who actually act as the disease vectors, making them morally responsible for the spread of the disease.
The new attempts to “stop the spread” of Ebola by taking temperatures at entry airports is a classic example of security theater. It would not have stopped Duncan from entering, but we all pretend it will somehow prevent future cases from coming in
—— neighbors say she was a close friend ——
Given the amount of duncan seed spread all round, her pregnancy could most likely be blamed on the man intent on saving his unborn child rather than it’s mother
Symptoms aren't displayed till massive infection is present.
Infection is present (and transmissible) even though it hasn't reached massive symptom levels yet.
People BREATHE. The viri ARE in the breath/lung/mucosal moisture micro droplets! Maybe not in massive symptom amounts, but still PRESENT. It may seem like the virus has a starting pistol of symptoms to be transmissible, but factually looking at reality bears it to be much earlier.
you must not have read the entire story about that
Her family his landlords asked his help to get her to hospital. Taxi would not come. He rode car front seat, family and dying woman, back seat.
When she was rejected from overfull hospital he and her brother carried her seizing bloody vomit/feces covered body back to the car. He carried her legs. She died that night. Her brother died the next week. Then Duncan fled.
Tell me a liberian who carried a living corpse doesnt know he touched someone with ebola.
For the guy on the right---->
I would make a bee line to the capital and rub every door knob I could and then the MSM outlets. Too bad I could get to Barry’s house. Those in charge need to feel the pain we are and will be feeling.
I don't know how much medication can lower it, but I'll point out that my "normal" body temperature is about 1 degree lower than 98.6 F. I suspect it has to do with how it is usually measured.
So, I don't think a low temp is that unusual.
As for the denial, that’s exactly what anyone would do ASSUMING the man even knew the pregnant woman died from Ebola before he left Liberia.
Imagine the sense of relief anyone would have every step of the way, first when he had no symptoms, then when he was cleared at the airport, then when even an American hospital sent him home:
That argues that he didn't know how much trouble he was in. Or he was in a state of serious denial (Hey — I helped my landlord's daughter. She was a horrible mess, but it wasn't Ebola. And I was OK at the airport, and the Dallas docs didn't think my illness was a big deal even after I told them I was from West Africa. Whew! So far, so good!).
That very scenario could be playing out on every single flight from affected countries, with those other passengers being just truly lucky.
By permitting people to enter this country from affected countries (not to mention illegally across the border), our government is forcing us all to play Russian roulette with Ebola and other diseases.
It's not the fault of the people coming here LEGALLY. We really don't even know whether he lied on a form. If he did, then how many other passengers are lying on that form?
Right now, we could be reading a very sad story about a man who never made it to the United States to see his son because Ebola killed him in Liberia. There wouldn't be a story of a man who brought the illness to Dallas if the U.S. government didn't have a policy permitting travel from countries that are being ravaged by the disease.
Only if he was in denial.
There's a huge outreach program going on in the affected areas to teach people the symptoms of Ebola, and to avoid contact with people showing those symptoms.
I read somewhere that he attended the woman's funeral, so he knew she died shortly after he tried to take her to the hospital.
The only way he didn't know he was exposed was willful ignorance.
A link to this thread has been posted on the Ebola Surveillance Thread
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