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In Secret Service, Some Blacks See a Flawed Shield for the President
New York Times ^ | October 2, 2014 | PETER BAKER

Posted on 10/03/2014 4:57:51 AM PDT by reaganaut1

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To: madprof98

The secret service was part of the Treasury Department but got moved to DHS in 2003. I suspect they used to have higher standards than they do now.


41 posted on 10/03/2014 5:53:29 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

He may have been out of Malt and Newports?


42 posted on 10/03/2014 5:59:37 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: reaganaut1

There are reports that the guards were sandbagginbg the head of security, and if that isn’t deliberate underperformance, I’ll eat my hat.


43 posted on 10/03/2014 5:59:52 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Mr. K
-- The President is the boss- they don't tell him how they will protect him, he tells them. --

This one is sort of a mixed bag. Obama is by no means a security expert, and good experts don't do a half-baked job without first informing the client of the risks. In the case of the president, I do believe that are situations where the security personnel in fact order him around.

44 posted on 10/03/2014 6:02:27 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: reaganaut1

Why, she asked, wasn’t he being better protected by his Secret Service agents?

Has anything happened to the President? No? Then I would suggest he is being protected just fine..


45 posted on 10/03/2014 6:06:30 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (I am an American. Not a Republican or a Democrat.)
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To: reaganaut1

There is only one legitimate answer to the WHY...

Obama got the secret service he wanted!

The only thing the secret service did wrong, like a few others in his admin, is putting their incompetence on display, so they will be replaced by other incompetents, with one admonition “don’t get caught”!


46 posted on 10/03/2014 6:06:57 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: reaganaut1

Since when does a Negro Socialist Democrat go into the supermarket, on his own, without a gang of armed thugs, for his own protection?


47 posted on 10/03/2014 6:07:50 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: PoloSec

I choose to believe the SS just no longer gives a damn about the incompetent corrupt scoundrel that is the President.

Why bother?


48 posted on 10/03/2014 6:08:42 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: NorthMountain
Well, we know that politicians never go anywhere without a few dozen cameras present - so let's see the pictures of the right honorable (sic) Mr Cummings at the "grocery store" I'm calling this a complete and utter fabrication by the corrupt carpetbagging congressman.

That being said, it does appear that the SS is hanging the Obama family out there like mexican pinatas

49 posted on 10/03/2014 6:11:40 AM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever)
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To: ilovesarah2012
JFK was white. Reagan was white. Ford was white. Even Lincoln was white.

Garfield and TR, too.

Disparate impact!

50 posted on 10/03/2014 6:13:23 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: reaganaut1
Representative Elijah E. Cummings of Maryland was at the grocery store the other day when he ran into an elderly black woman who expressed growing concern about President Obama’s safety. Why, she asked, wasn’t he being better protected by his Secret Service agents?

Peter Baker of the NYT writes as if that were a factual incident.

Did he witness it personally, or is he just uncritically repeating what Cummings claimed was said to him?

(Rhetorical question only - after all, this is the New York Times that we're dealing with, where they regularly publish opinion as if it were factual, and not a reputable journalistic source.)

51 posted on 10/03/2014 6:20:36 AM PDT by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: Toespi

...and if they gave him thekeys right away, it would have been, “oh, you just assumed since I’m black, its gotta be my cadillac.” I get it, I’ve a friend who’s like that. Great family man, hard worker, hates paying taxes, church guy, but always looking for offense when there is none. I always tell him sometimes a spade is a spade....its not some grand conspiracy


52 posted on 10/03/2014 6:21:09 AM PDT by cport (How can political capital be spent on a bunch of ingrates)
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To: NorthMountain

I would imagine that Secret Service mess-ups have happened in every administration, it is run by people and we make mistakes. I also imagine that every other administration dealt with it quietly.


53 posted on 10/03/2014 6:22:53 AM PDT by tiki
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To: tiki

And politicians have been lying through their teeth about ‘chance meetings’ with ‘commoners’ for aeons.

The detestable elijah cummings is not a paragon of truth.


54 posted on 10/03/2014 6:24:42 AM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: reaganaut1

We’re getting a repeat of 2009 when the dems started a talking points campaign of the racist right wing extremist wanted to assassinate the president and the “Bush” Secret Service was chock a block full of racist that wanted to see the president assassinated.

Howard Dean had a slip of the tongue and let it be know this talking points campaign of republicans wanting to assassinate the president was a repeat of what the dems had done during the Clinton years.

In 1994-1995 the Clintons/dems started a talking points campaign that the racist right wing extremist wanted to assassinate the president.

Bill Clinton made a trip to the Philippines where Terry Nichols of OKC bombing fame had been visiting and low and behold the was an assassination plot against Bill Clinton.

In 2009 after Howard Dean let it be known the dems were doing a repeat of 1994-95, Hillary took a trip overseas and low and behold there was an assassination plot against Hillary.

Following the alleged assassination plot against Bill Clinton we had the “right wing extremist” OKC bombing.

Following the 2009 alleged assassination plot against Hillary Clinton we had the attempted car bombing in NYC which they tried to blame on the right wing extremist TEA Party.

At some point you have to stop writing off events that keep repeating themselves as “just a coincidence”.


55 posted on 10/03/2014 6:38:18 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: reaganaut1

Some blacks are ...really, really stupid!!!!


56 posted on 10/03/2014 6:45:49 AM PDT by ontap
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To: Toespi

Question...Why do you still have liberal friends......this is always their reaction to everything!!! Not saying there is anything wrong with it.....but it certainly gets tiresome.


57 posted on 10/03/2014 6:51:49 AM PDT by ontap
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To: ontap

LIBs are insufferable. They make me sick. They are some weird combination of mentally ill and logic-deficient.


58 posted on 10/03/2014 6:52:12 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: reaganaut1

Obama’s administration is full of incompetents. He has nominated some of the most liberal unqualified incompetents to head important positions in government. People with no knowledge and experience in their area of responsibility, only political allegiance to the party, race, and the liberal agenda.

These incompetents in turn have staffed key positions in their agencies with similar party members of a preferred race and agenda. Politics and race are the most important qualifications, not experience and knowledge.

The chain of command is also a problem. The fact nobody knows who is responsible for what and to whom and you have the complete dysfunctional mess that is the Obama administration. I see nobody with the knowledge and experience to make the right decisions at the right times, especially under pressure.

You see controversial issues develop across the administration again and again like the IRS (Tea Party), state department (Benghazi),etc. I don’t have time to list them all. It’s no wonder the rank and file workers have such low morale and other issues. Why would the Secret Service be an exception?.

Get the picture.


59 posted on 10/03/2014 6:52:19 AM PDT by Texicanus (Texas, it's a whole 'nother country.)
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To: reaganaut1; All

alleging racism is much easier than admitting incompetence...


60 posted on 10/03/2014 7:02:32 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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