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Old and In the Way?
Townhall.com ^ | September 25, 2014 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 09/25/2014 9:09:40 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin

Being one of the “feeble, ineffectual, even pathetic” folks over 75, I rather take umbrage at this characterization. Ezekiel Emanuel was a failure as a human being when he was 17, and he has not gained much momentum since then.

This is reflected in all sorts of subtle and not-so-subtle ways in the wording of the “Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act of 2010”. First, much of the funding was simply STOLEN from Medicare, and a vast part of the burden was shifted to Medicaid, which also negatively impacts an inordinate number of seniors. Not only are the funds taken away, the very things for which Medicare and Medicaid were set up to directly target, are also being put on a much restricted list. There are “death panels” written into the text, but they are not called by that name.

“Cost containment” is the name put on this practice, but it is essentially rationing, and it is age-based, on something called QARY (Quality-Adjusted Remaining Years). Older people have fewer “productive” years remaining, goes the reasoning, so they should “get out of the way”.

Obamacare can be summed up in three bullet points -

1. Pay more than you ever have in the past for medical services;
2. Don’t get sick, and;
3. If you do get sick, die quickly.


21 posted on 09/25/2014 9:50:32 AM PDT by alloysteel (Most people become who they promised they would never be.)
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To: Kaslin

Death Panels


22 posted on 09/25/2014 9:55:18 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Kaslin

Cervantes was 58 when Don Quixote was published.

40 would have been considered a ripe old age.


23 posted on 09/25/2014 10:00:18 AM PDT by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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To: Kaslin

What’s at stake:

Lower costs for Obama care if you die around the age of 75.

Enhanced tax revenue from the early levying of inheritance tax. This could be a substantial amount of revenue.


24 posted on 09/25/2014 10:08:20 AM PDT by buffaloguy
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Enhanced tax revenue from the early levying of inheritance tax. This could be a substantial amount of revenue.

Except that if you know when they're going to cut off your medical care you stop planning to live much longer than that and adjust your finances and spending habits accordingly.

25 posted on 09/25/2014 10:15:03 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic

Most people will not adjust their expenses so that they run out at just the right time.

This is euthanasia.


26 posted on 09/25/2014 10:21:21 AM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: Kaslin

George Soros - 84
Warren Buffett - 84
Ted Turner - 75
Redstone Sumner (CBS) - 91
Jimmy Carter - 89
All major Democrat contributors ... well maybe except for the last (grin)


27 posted on 09/25/2014 10:44:18 AM PDT by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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To: SES1066
Also:

Dianne Feinstein (81 years)
Carl Levin (80)
Barbara Mikulski (78)
Jay Rockefeller (77)

Tom Harkin reaches the Optimal Age of Death in just 56 days, and the Big Dingy, Harry Reid, hits the big OAOD in 68 days.

28 posted on 09/25/2014 10:53:11 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Thank you for self-censoring.)
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To: SES1066

nuff said


29 posted on 09/25/2014 10:55:03 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: alloysteel

My dad died at 90 years old. He was vibrant and engaged right up to the end. Feeble? He was still physically stronger than many younger men and he was neither ineffectual or pathetic. The Emmanuel brothers are evil and there is no other word for them.


30 posted on 09/25/2014 11:07:33 AM PDT by Ann de IL
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To: buffaloguy
Most people will not adjust their expenses so that they run out at just the right time.

What do you base that on? I think we're talking about a situation that we don't really have any precedent or past experience with.

I think watching friends and family members die of calculated neglect by government bureaucrats, and then have the government come in and take their savings they could have enjoyed while they were alive would certainly make me think about my own situation.

31 posted on 09/25/2014 11:43:36 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: Kaslin

You have always been a waste of O2, Dr. Emanuel.


32 posted on 09/25/2014 12:45:00 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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To: BenLurkin

ha ha ha GOOD ONE! Well my mom is almost 90 and still going strong. Her second husband just celebrated his 90th. My uncle was 90 before he had any health problem, smoked two packs a day, finally developed one tiny spot of cancer on his lung. He refused treatment and died at about 90. My aunt was 90 and healthy as a horse, with 20-20 vision. Then she started slowing down and died at 91. There were no big medical bills or treatments for her, just a blood pressure pill once a day, and they are not expensive.

I think too much medical expen$e is going to gangsters, guys in prison, rioters, gang bangers, who have knife wounds, gunshot wounds, etc.

And daredevils. They are young. They keep getting injured. Their medical bills are sky high. Like Dario Franchiti. He broke his neck, back, ankle, etc in a Grand Prix car race in Houston. And he is racing again. His medical bills for that ONE accident are more than mine have been for my whole life, I am 63.

We have saved up for our retirement and old age. WE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO LIVE AND ENJOY IT! My medical bills are almost Zero


33 posted on 09/25/2014 2:02:34 PM PDT by buffyt ("After the midterms......obama is free to rain pure destruction on America")
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To: Still Thinking

Too bad his mom didn’t abort him. ....and I am TOTALLY AGAINST ABORTION! but in his case, I make an exception! LOL


34 posted on 09/25/2014 2:06:53 PM PDT by buffyt ("After the midterms......obama is free to rain pure destruction on America")
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To: GOPJ

Oh I LOVE Leonard Cohen! Just heard a guitar concert and the guitarist (Shawn Hopper) only sings on one song...
Bird on a Wire.... written by Leonard Cohen!

If Shawn Hopper ever comes to your town, go to his concert! Great talent!


35 posted on 09/25/2014 2:09:14 PM PDT by buffyt ("After the midterms......obama is free to rain pure destruction on America")
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To: alloysteel

A friend of mine is way over 75 and he and his wife just got back from a trip to Italy. Earlier this year they went to Alaska with a church group to do some work for free up there, some kind of construction. I often see them at the gym. They are more active than a lot of kids who sit and play video games all day!


36 posted on 09/25/2014 2:10:54 PM PDT by buffyt ("After the midterms......obama is free to rain pure destruction on America")
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To: Ann de IL

My father in law was a youthful 85. He mowed his lawn, watered it with heavy hoses, drove to Littleton Co from GOlden, had dinner with our cousins, drove home. He was fine but somehow he fell and hit his head and never woke up. He was vibrant and active as most 30 year olds.

He still shoveled his STEEP driveway. We tried but that snow was so heavy. We were 30 years younger than he was and we couldn’t shovel the snow, he could. One time he fell and slid down that driveway, and only stopped when he got to the middle of the street. Didn’t get hurt.

My aunt who died at 91 was standing on a kitchen chair, fell, all the way to the floor, BAM! Didn’t break anything. I come from sturdy stock.


37 posted on 09/25/2014 2:15:07 PM PDT by buffyt ("After the midterms......obama is free to rain pure destruction on America")
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To: elteemike

“Did you mean Emmanuel instead of Hanson?”

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Yep, my error. Rushing a bit. Thanks.


38 posted on 09/25/2014 2:30:42 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: alloysteel

I just looked up articles about Leonard Cohen’s new album. He is 80. One of his new songs is EXCUSE ME FOR NOT DYING!
I am 63 and I very much already feel Old and in the Way.
So please also excue me for not dying. I love his song Like a Bird on a Wire. Like a drunk in a midnight choir. I have burned everyone who reached out to me.


39 posted on 09/25/2014 3:08:15 PM PDT by buffyt ("After the midterms......obama is free to rain pure destruction on America")
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To: CharlesOConnell

In 1900 ripe old age was 47.

I remember when I was a kid in Oklahoma in the 50s and 60s a neighbor was 30 and PG for the first time! She was considered too old and she was so grumpy! LOL Now a lot of people wait till 30 to have a baby! I was 30 when I had our first child!


40 posted on 09/25/2014 3:09:32 PM PDT by buffyt ("After the midterms......obama is free to rain pure destruction on America")
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