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Plurality now think businesses that provide wedding services be required to serve gay weddings too
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| September 22, 2014
| Allahpundit
Posted on 09/22/2014 6:59:09 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Ahh. Ok. Thanks. I didn’t know that.
I wanted to post a variation on my post here about moslems being required to serve pork or be charged with discrimination. Just to stir things up.
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posted on
09/22/2014 8:40:33 PM PDT
by
Ray76
(We must destroy the Uniparty or be destroyed by them.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Seems like a pretty hinky poll. Not that it would entirely surprise me if true. Especially since Americans seem so cowed and spineless nowadays when it comes to the bullying by the PC fascists, always ready to capitulate and give up their freedoms when faced by degenerate media-driven agendas. I used to actually think Americans were too full of grit and independence to fall prey to such things. But that was an earlier generation, an earlier ilk, of Americans. Not the degraded populace we have now.
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posted on
09/22/2014 8:44:01 PM PDT
by
greene66
To: Ray76
I’ve been going there for many, many years and was just able to sign in to post about 5 months ago.
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posted on
09/22/2014 8:45:10 PM PDT
by
2ndDivisionVet
(The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Does a lawyer have to offer his services to any client? Even lobbying on behalf of a political cause he personally opposes? NO.
Why the double standard?
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posted on
09/22/2014 9:24:49 PM PDT
by
a fool in paradise
(Hey Obama: If Islamic State is not Islamic, then why did you give Osama Bin Laden a muslim funeral?)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Why not let the market decide? I'm sure some entrepreneur is waiting to cash in on the gay wedding market and start up a company that caters exclusively to it.
Any day now, if the gay population is so huge.
-PJ
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posted on
09/22/2014 9:45:40 PM PDT
by
Political Junkie Too
(If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Did we think these BS polls weren’t going to back the constantly meddlesome community of homosexuals that should be ‘required’ to M.T.O.B?!
To: steve86
“Some day something like Ebola will fix this.”
Maybe sooner than later. For all of us. Why? Because Americans demand all the wrong things.
To: Ray76
And how about all the anti-smoking laws? Do they not discriminate against smokers?
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posted on
09/23/2014 4:51:13 AM PDT
by
logic101.net
(How many more children must die on the altar of gun free zones?)
To: steve86; metmom; boatbums; caww; presently no screen name; redleghunter; Springfield Reformer; ...
Compare Pews question above to how Ras put it: Suppose a Christian wedding photographer has deeply held religious beliefs opposing same-sex marriage. If asked to work a same-sex wedding ceremony, should that wedding photographer have the right to say no?... That is much better, but Pew is worded more like a ballot measure would be, and more likely represents how the public would generally answer.
Blacks are sensitive to giving businesses the right to deny service to a disfavored group (at least vis-a-vis marriage), for obvious historical reasons.
What they should have asked was, "If a business owned by black or Jewish people provided services for special functions, such as photography or special cakes or signs, should it be allowed to refuse to provides such for a Klu Klux Klan or another white supremacist celebration?
I think you would see a very different and inconsistent response, vs. "religious reasons."
The tilt among Catholics is interesting too, driven partly by the number of Hispanic Catholics but not entirely. Even white Catholics show majority support for forcing business owners to comply.
Which is consistent with the abundance of other stats from many researchers testifying to the overall liberal fruit of Rome, while if the wording here is to be blamed, then white evangelical Protestants had more discernment with 71% upholding the right of the business to refuse, vs, just 25% disagreeing, while blacks only make up 6% of evangelicals.
In contrast, the percentage for white Caths were 45/53, which is worse than the % for even all Protestants (54/41).
82 percent of white evangelical Protestants, i.e. the conservative base, see homosexuality as sinful while 56 percent of Hispanic
And just 47% of white Caths, while Latinos make up an est. 15% of evangelicals, and 32% of Catholics.
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posted on
09/23/2014 5:40:49 AM PDT
by
daniel1212
(Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
It is WAY past time for the Silent Majority to SPEAK OUT!!!
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posted on
09/23/2014 5:48:46 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Viennacon
This country has become so sick. It's reaping time!
We've sown the wind...
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posted on
09/23/2014 5:49:35 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Viennacon
This country has become so sick. Who wooda thought that 56,000,000 future Americans CHOICED to death would have had such an effect?
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posted on
09/23/2014 5:50:40 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Viennacon
This country has become so sick.
2 Chronicles 7:14
If my people, who are called by my name,
shall humble themselves,
and pray, and seek my face,
and turn from their wicked ways; ,
then will I hear from heaven,
and will forgive their sin,
and will heal their land.
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posted on
09/23/2014 5:51:24 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Viennacon
If my people, who are called by my name,
Are there any of these still left around to turn out the lights?
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posted on
09/23/2014 5:52:40 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Viennacon
Somebody smacked his wife in an elevator?
Crime sin of the CENTURY!!!
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posted on
09/23/2014 5:53:38 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: steve86; 2ndDivisionVet
My post
above was meant to go to post #1 by 2ndDivisionVet, while to your response,
There isnt any question the Catholic Church has failed sensationally in catechization since Vatican II , i would say that the catechization is not to be blamed so much as the application.
What we really believe is manifest by what we do and effect, (Ja. 2:18; Mt. 7:20) and souls look for the interpretation of what they heard by how the preachers translate it into their own lives, and as Rome treats even notorious public proabortion prosodomite pols as members in life and in death, which speaks louder for what she officially says.
But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. (1 Corinthians 5:11)
"Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. " (Romans 16:17)
"And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed. " (2 Thessalonians 3:14)
Yet as Rome herself much teaches contrary to that of the NT church , so she is to be avoided.
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posted on
09/23/2014 5:53:50 AM PDT
by
daniel1212
(Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
To: steve86
Some day something like Ebola will fix this.I've read that; somewhere....
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posted on
09/23/2014 5:54:39 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: steve86
There isnt any question the Catholic Church has failed sensationally in catechization since Vatican II. NOW you've done it!
HATER!!!
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posted on
09/23/2014 5:55:35 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: logic101.net
Maybe an secret camera would be helpful for this?I'll say that an OPEN camera would cause a BUNCH of dudes to FLEE the place; as they STILL be inna closet!
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posted on
09/23/2014 5:56:51 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: a fool in paradise
Why the double standard?
I'd like to thank the United States Government for protecting me and my kind.
You see, 40 years ago, my odds of making it out of the egg, alive, were very poor; about 80% of us died.
But a lady discovered our plight and wrote a book that addressed our problem,
What I find strange is that the same government passed a law the very next year that allowed for killing
of unborn, and apparently unwanted, humans. Little ones still nestled safely in their Mother's womb.
Around 25% of them are dying before birth - on average nearly 3,300 - every day of the year.
I hear that by now, somewhere around 55 MILLION of them have perished.
Wouldn't that kind of mess up the humans plans for growth, and welfare, and
retirement?
Strange birds; these Homo Sapiens. Perhaps they'll come to their senses
before they are ALL dead!
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posted on
09/23/2014 5:58:05 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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