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The Oil “Market:” Time to Get off This Rollercoaster
Townhall.com ^ | September 22, 2014 | Ken Blackwell

Posted on 09/22/2014 9:55:28 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 09/22/2014 9:55:28 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

“getting to work in an electric car” always annoys me. Where does the electricity come from? That is what is key.


2 posted on 09/22/2014 9:57:54 AM PDT by Persevero (Come on 2016)
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What’s wrong with a coal powered car?


3 posted on 09/22/2014 9:59:35 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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‘For a daily commute, perhaps this means getting to work in an electric car. ‘

LOL....the electric types just cant get over themselves. Somehow b/c its electric does it get magical energy from somewhere other than a fossil fuel source? In almost all cases no, it doesnt. I see no advantage for most people to use an electric vehicle. Yet, it keep getting shoved in our faces like its a cure all. Its tiresome in the extreme.


4 posted on 09/22/2014 10:00:19 AM PDT by 556x45
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To: thackney

Other than being non-PC nothing...either via gassification or steam. In fact steam power might be kind of nifty at least in a retro sort of way.


5 posted on 09/22/2014 10:01:36 AM PDT by 556x45
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To: Kaslin

Gasoline is now, and will be for the foreseeable future, the most efficient form of transportation energy.

Nothing is as green as a gallon of gasoline!!!


6 posted on 09/22/2014 10:04:23 AM PDT by rottndog ('Live Free Or Die' Ain't just words on a bumber sticker...or a tagline.)
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To: 556x45

Range of 50 miles, husband drives a bit farther than that to get to Houston! I guess he could WALK!~ LOL


7 posted on 09/22/2014 10:08:07 AM PDT by buffyt (As soon as someone says consensus he is no longer talking about science he's talking about politics.)
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To: Kaslin
To strengthen our energy security, domestic production must be accompanied by a policy that would break the monopoly oil holds over our mobility.

What idea do you think is being promoted here? What "policy" is being suggested?

8 posted on 09/22/2014 10:26:40 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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Coal isn't politically correct, and neither is oil. The overwhelming majority of
Americans have no idea how an internal combustion engine operates, let alone any sort of grasp of chemistry or thermodynamics for that matter. They rely on demagogues and pretty tales from environmental front groups for all of their opinions, because they are too intellectually lazy and/or stupid to think and research for themselves. In other words, the classic liberal socialist troll/useful idiot.
9 posted on 09/22/2014 10:31:53 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: Kaslin

As a nation, we need to ramp up:

- Domestic oil production
- NG to oil production
- Coal to oil production
- algae to bio-diesel production


10 posted on 09/22/2014 10:40:32 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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Just for clarification, we don’t turn NatGas into oil or coal into oil. There are Gas-to-Liquid (GTL) and Coal-to-Liquid technologies that create liquid fuel like diesel, kerosene, etc.

I agree all benefit our nation, if economic. I don’t want to see the government doing any part of it, besides cutting needless red tape.


11 posted on 09/22/2014 10:45:07 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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WOW. I just had a “Willie Green Happy Choo Choo Thread” flashback!


12 posted on 09/22/2014 11:19:35 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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That would be way better than my old diesel car I had back in the 80s. It was an engine designed by BMW but put in a Lincoln, and when you floored the accelerator, it was like laying a smoke screen down from the batmobile. Pure, thick unadulterated black smoke, that could temporarily cover the car behind you.

Now a coal fired car, that would be even better. Chug, Chug, Chug, that smoke just pouring out at max capacity.

I’m all in.


13 posted on 09/22/2014 11:44:42 AM PDT by job
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I remember those, they only put them in the Mark. The faux spare tire hump was always covered in soot.


14 posted on 09/22/2014 11:47:32 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: taxcontrol

The thing we need to ramp up is nuclear. Especially Thorium and pebble bed technologies. It is by far the safest, least expensive technology with a virtually limitless source of fuel.


15 posted on 09/22/2014 11:48:08 AM PDT by Go_Raiders (Freedom doesn't give you the right to take from others, no matter how innocent your program sounds.)
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To: thackney

“What’s wrong with a coal powered car?”

I’d be ok with it.


16 posted on 09/22/2014 12:14:23 PM PDT by Persevero (Come on 2016)
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Coal is, I think, a finite resource. I suspect that oil is not.


17 posted on 09/22/2014 12:15:48 PM PDT by Persevero (Come on 2016)
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To: Go_Raiders

I agree but I was under the impression that Thorium reactors were not yet ready. Has that changed?


18 posted on 09/22/2014 12:43:57 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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I was using “oil” to mean petroleum and petroleum derivative products. Shell has recently announced that they have a patent for converting NG to base oil.

http://www.shell.us/aboutshell/us-media-center/news-and-press-releases/2014/shell-creates-motor-oil-from-natural-gas.html

And Pennzoil has a synthetic made from NG (http://pureplus.pennzoil.com/).


19 posted on 09/22/2014 12:48:10 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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Understood. You may notice in your link Shell calls it natural-gas-to-liquids. Pennzoil is owned by Shell, they purchased it in 2002.


20 posted on 09/22/2014 12:53:46 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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