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U.S. CARRIER FORCE STRIKES MANILA AREA; DESTROYS 205 PLANES, SMASHES 37 SHIPS (9/22/44)
Microfilm-New York Times archives, Monterey Public Library | 9/22/44 | Robert Trumbull, Lindesay Parrott, Drew Middleton, Harold Denny, W.H. Lawrence, Hanson W. Baldwin

Posted on 09/22/2014 4:18:29 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson

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TOPICS: Extended News
KEYWORDS: history; milhist; realtime; worldwarii
Free Republic University, Department of History presents World War II Plus 70 Years: Seminar and Discussion Forum
First session: September 1, 2009. Last date to add: September 2, 2015.
Reading assignment: New York Times articles and the occasional radio broadcast delivered daily to students on the 70th anniversary of original publication date. (Previously posted articles can be found by searching on keyword “realtime” Or view Homer’s posting history .)
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1 posted on 09/22/2014 4:18:29 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson
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Selections from West Point Atlas for the Second World War
MARKET-GARDEN Operations, September 1944
American Capture of Peleliu, September 15-26, 1944
Northwestern Europe, 1944: 6th and 12th Army Group Operations, 15 September-7 November 1944
Northwestern Europe, 1944: 21st Army Group Operations, 15 September-15 December 1944
Eastern Europe, 1941: Russian Balkan and Baltic Campaigns – Operations, 19 August-31 December 1944
The Western Pacific, New Guinea, and the Philippine Islands: Allied Advances to the Palaus and Morotai, 30 July-17 September 1944 and Air Attacks on the Philippines, 7-22 September 1944
Northern Italy 1944: Allied Advance to Gothic Line, 5 June-25 August and Gains 29 August-31 December
China, 1941: Operation Ichigo, April-December 1944 and Situation 31 December
China-Burma, 1941: Third Burma Campaign – Slim’s Offensive, June 1944-March 1945
2 posted on 09/22/2014 4:19:00 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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The Nimitz Graybook

3 posted on 09/22/2014 4:21:16 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Continued from September 19.

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Stephen E. Ambrose, Band of Brothers

4 posted on 09/22/2014 4:23:23 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: r9etb; PzLdr; dfwgator; Paisan; From many - one.; rockinqsranch; 2banana; henkster; meandog; ...
Luzon is Hit Hard (Trumbull) – 2
M’Arthur Fliers Smash 12 Vessels (Parrott) – 2-3
Chinese Check Foe Driving on Kweilin – 3
Arnhem Link is Aim (Middleton) – 4-5
3 American M.P.’s Vanish in Germany (Denny) – 6
Netherlands: Key Bridge Won by Allies and British Armor Advancing (photos) – 6-7
Russians Race for Tallinn; Mass at Hungary’s Border – 8-9
Finland Interns First of Germans (Lawrence) – 9
War News Summarized – 9
Rimini is Entered by British Forces – 10
Italian Socialists Assail Allied Rule – 10
Australian Denies Pearl Harbor ‘Tip’ – 11
Eisenhower on Job after Breakdown – 12
Officer, 45, Made 57 Air Missions – 12
The Crisis at Arnhem (Baldwin) – 12
The Texts of the Day’s Communiques on the Fighting in the Various War Theatres – 13-15
5 posted on 09/22/2014 4:24:45 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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http://www.onwar.com/chrono/1944/sep44/22sep44.htm#

Soviets capture Tallin
Friday, September 22, 1944 www.onwar.com

On the Eastern Front... Elements of the Soviet Leningrad Front (Govorov) capture Tallin, capital of Estonia, in the Baltics. In Romania, Soviet forces reach Arad.

On the Western Front... Operation Market Garden continues. The Polish paratroops, later joined by British 43rd Division (part of British 30th Corps), attempt reach the Rhine in order to make contact with elements of the British 1st Airborne Division to trapped on the north bank. Other elements of British 30th Corps, advancing toward Arnhem, meet heavy resistance by German forces. Elst, 5 miles north of Nijmegen, is captured. Meanwhile, the Canadian 3rd Division (an element of 1st Canadian Army) captures Boulogne.

In the Palau Islands... On Peleliu, US 3rd Amphibious Corps (Geiger) deploys a regiment of US 81st Infantry Division to replace depleted elements of the US 1st Marine Division. The marines have suffered heavy casualties in attacks on Mount Umurbrogol.

In the Philippines... US Task Force 38 conducts air strikes on Japanese targets on Luzon, particularly Manila and Manila Bay. Twelve American carriers are involved.


6 posted on 09/22/2014 4:25:47 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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http://www.etherit.co.uk/month/8/22.htm

September 22nd, 1944 (FRIDAY)

UNITED KINGDOM: The last Operations FRANTIC missions ends as 84 B-17s and 51 P-51s return to the UK from Italy; the remaining aircraft return on 8 Oct.

108 B-24s fly fuel to France.

BELGIUM: In the Canadian First Army’s 2 Corps area, the 3d Division receives the surrender of the 9,500 German troops of the Boulogne garrison. The 4th Armoured Division has cleared as far north as Leopold Canal and on right flank has reached the Schelde Estuary. With the capture of Terneuzen by Polish armor, the enemy is confined to “Breskens Pocket,” the region north of the Leopold Canal and west of Savojaards Plaat.

NETHERLANDS: The British XXX Corps continue their advance towards Arnhem. They are now 11 miles N of Nijmegen at Elst, Holland. The heavy German resistance is bolstered by the marshy terrain which requires them to stay on the raised roadways where the Germans can spot them. They have also lost their room for manoeuvre.

In the British Second Army’s I Airborne Corps area, the British 1st Airborne Division is still isolated and under heavy pressure north of the Neder Rijn near Arnhem. Air resupply is impossible because of weather conditions.

Elements of 30 Corps make contact with the Polish detachment at Driel and bring DUKWs loaded with ammunition and supplies for the 1st Airborne Division. The mud is too deep for the DUKWs, but groups of Poles succeed in crossing supplies on rafts during the night of 22/23 September.

The U.S. 82d Airborne Division clears the south bank of the Waal River 3 miles (4,8 kilometres) east of the highway bridge.

In the 30 Corps area, the 43d Division, taking over the attack toward Arnhem from the Guards Armoured Division, gets elements to Driel, but the main body is held up far to the south by determined opposition.

The Germans make a major counterattack against Veghel, the main effort coming through the village of Erp but other prongs coming from the southeast, northwest and north. Elements of the U.S. 101st Airborne Division supported by British tanks of the 44th Royal Tank Regiment (Sherman Fireflies) and a British Anti-Aircraft unit (most likely the 94th Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment Royal Artillery, which is part of the divisional troops in the Guards Armoured Division) with 3.7 inch guns engaged the German tanks and force the enemy back from Veghel, but the Germans cut the highway between there and Uden. 12 Corps is slowly improving their positions west of Eindhoven. 8 Corps, continuing toward Helmond, takes Weert. (Jack McKillop and Stuart and Russ Folsom and Jay Stone)(134 and 93)

In the air, 77 USAAF Eighth Air Force P-47s patrol the Arnhem area; 1 P-47 is lost.

FRANCE: General Dwight D Eisenhower, conferring with his top commanders at Versailles, gives top priority to the opening of the Schelde approaches to Antwerp, Belgium, since a deep-water port is needed in order to sustain the main Allied offensive of enveloping the Ruhr from the north. The offensive is to be conducted by 21 Army Group, assisted by the U.S. First Army. The boundary between 21 and 12th Army Groups is adjusted, effective 25 September, to extend northeast from Hasselt, the Netherlands, through Bree, Ween, Deurne, and Venray (all to 12th Army Group) to the Maas River at Maashees and along the river to the original boundary north of Maastricht. This boundary change gives XIX Corps of the U.S. First Army a corridor west of the Maas that contains more than 500 square miles (1295 square kilometres) and includes the extensive swampland of the Peel Marshes To secure this corridor, XIX Corps is to have two new divisions, the 29th Infantry Division from Brest and the 7th Armored Division from the Moselle River sector near Metz. Since supply requirements of the Ruhr offensive are to be met fully first, the U.S. Third Army is to limit its action to that permitted by the supply situation.
In the U.S. Third Army’s XX Corps area, the enemy evacuates Cheminot, since it has become an untenable pocket between XX and XII Corps. The 7th Armored Division prepares to attack across the Seille River on 23 September. The 2d Battalion of the 10th Infantry, 5th Infantry Division, withstands further enemy attacks against Pournoy-la-Chetive, this time from southeast of the town. In XII Corps area, elements of the 80th Infantry Division continue to fight in Bois de la Rumont. Combat Command, 6th Armored Division, circling west and south from Foret de Gremecey to take the enemy in the Amance area from the rear, clears strongly occupied Armaucourt. The 134th Infantry, 35th Infantry Division, attacks into the Bois de Faulx at noon; 137th Infantry pushes through rest of Foret de Champenoux, from which the enemy flees under air and artillery attack, abandoning the Amance plateau. The 6th Armored Division (-) assembles in Foret de Gremecey to clear this region and screen between the 80th Infantry and 4th Armored Divisions. Combat Command A, 4th Armored Division, halts German tank-infantry attack toward Moyenvic in the region west of Juvelize and inflicts heavy losses on the enemy. In the XV Corps area, the 79th Infantry Division progresses slowly on the left; the Germans make local attacks from Foret de Parroy toward Luneville; the 315th Infantry loses and recovers a portion of Luneville; the 313th Infantry, delayed by a counterattack at Moncel, cannot advance into Foret de Mondon; 4 companies of the 314th Infantry ford the Meurthe River but, since they cannot advance without support from tanks and artillery, halt to await bridging. The French Armored Division crosses the Meurthe between Flin and Vathimenil, during the night of 22/23 September, and patrols through the southern part of Foret de Mondon to La Vezouse R at Benamenil but is driven back.
In the U.S. Seventh Army’s VI Corps area, the 157th Infantry of the 45th Infantry Division maintains a bridgehead at Igney while the 179th Infantry crosses the Moselle at Arches and clears Archettes; the 180th Infantry continues to clear Epinal, from which the enemy begins withdrawing. The 36th Infantry Division finishes clearing Eloyes and is attacking Remiremont.
In the air, 108 USAAF Eighth Air Force B-24s fly fuel to France while 68 Fifteenth Air Force B-24s fly a supply mission to southern France.

GERMANY: The U.S. First Army goes on the defensive along most of its line. XIX Corps postpones an offensive against West Wall indefinitely. In the VII Corps area, Combat Command of 3d Armored Division, under a smokescreen, withdraws both Task Force Lovelady and Task Force Mills from the Donnerberg area to Stolberg, where Task Force Hogan has cleared the enemy from the southern part of town; Combat Command B then goes on the defensive and makes contact with Combat Command A at Muensterbusch; the division comes to halt within 3 miles (4,8 kilometres) of its objective, Eschweiler. The Germans make all-out counterattack against 47th Infantry, 9th Division, at Schevenhuette but are driven back with extremely heavy losses; 60th Infantry breaks off an attack for Huertgen village in order to send reinforcements to Schevenheutte; these are not required there but later attack to ease pressure on the single 6oth Infantry battalion the Huertgen Forest, where close, indecisive fighting rages for the next three days. V Corps remains on the defensive.
In the air, the USAAF Eighth Air Force flies Mission 645: 661 bombers are dispatched to hit the Henschel armored vehicle and motor vehicle factories at Kassel bombing by pathfinder methods; 453 B-17s are dispatched; 410 hit the primary, 10 hit Wetzlar and 7 hit targets of opportunity; 3 B-17s are lost. Escort is provided by 268 P-51s; 1 is lost.
Weather grounds USAAF Ninth Air Force bombers but fighters attack railroads, supply and ordnance depots, and strongpoints, and fly sweeps and armed reconnaissance over the Cologne, Dusseldorf, Aachen, Koblenz, Trier, Bonn, Mannheim, and Strasbourg areas.

USAAF Fifteenth Air Force B-17 Flying Fortresses and B-24 Liberators based in Italy bombs six targets, five of them in Munich: in Munich, 108 bomb Riom Airfield; 100 bomb the industrial area; 82 bomb a marshalling yard; 50 bomb the BMW aircraft engine plant making engines for the Fw 190 fighter; and 25 bomb Oberweisenfeld Airfield. The sixth target is the West marshalling yard at Larissa which is attacked by 76 aircraft.

AUSTRIA: One USAAF Fifteenth Air Force heavy bomber bombs the airfield at Formia.

FINLAND: Lt-Gen Hjalmar Siilasvuo is nominated to take command of all the Finnish forces in Lapland and conduct the campaign against Germans in northern Finland. His plan is to strike behind the German back by invading Tornio, the northernmost point of the Gulf of Bothnia, by sea. (Sami Korhonen and Mikko Härmeinen)

The first Soviet members of the Allied Supervisory Committee arrive Helsinki, Finland. The mission of the Committee is to see that Finns comply with the terms of the Interim Peace Treaty concluded at Moscow three days earlier. A small British contingent arrives later.

Finland breaks diplomatic relations with Japan.

ESTONIA: Soviet forces capture the capital Tallinn. (John Nicholas)

Marshal Govorov’s tanks, sliced through the German defences along the Gulf of Finland depriving the German Army Group North of one of its last means of escape by sea. General Schorner will now have to retreat south and west in order to escape the complete destruction of his badly-mauled group.

The capture of Tallinn’s first-rate port facilities will also give the Russians a valuable base for operations against German Baltic fleet and the transports being used both to deliver supplies and to evacuate casualties. The Red Air Force sank three large transports in Tallinn harbour before it fell.

It seems that the sheer speed of Govorov’s advance took the Germans by surprise. Covering 50 miles in a day, the tanks left the infantry to mop up pockets of the German rearguard, giving Schorner’s men no time to organize a proper line of defence. The depth of the Red Army’s advance is demonstrated by the capture of the railway junction of Tapa and the town of Paide; 47 miles south-east of Tallinn.

GREECE: The USAAF Fifteenth Air Force dispatches 76 B-24s to bomb the marshalling yard at Larissa.

ITALY: In the U.S. Fifth Army’s IV Corps area, the South African 6th Armoured Division is ordered forward in pursuit since the enemy appears to be withdrawing from positions above Pistoia. The II Corps virtually completes operations against the Gothic Line and is ready for the drive north to the Radicosa Pass and northeast to Imola. The 362d Infantry, 91st Infantry Division, completes the reduction of Futa Pass defenses; other elements of the 91st Infantry Division establish outposts across the Santerno River. On the left flank of the corps, enemy opposition to the 34th Infantry Division is weakening: the 135th Infantry takes Mt Citerna, northwest of Santa Lucia; the 168th Infantry seizes Hill 1134, east of Montepiano. The 91st Cavalry Reconnaissance Squadron, screening the left flank, finds Vernio abandoned by the enemy. The 85th Infantry Division pushes toward Mt la Fine on the right to assist the 88th Infantry Division and toward Mt Canda on the left in support of the 91st Infantry Division’s attack for Radicosa Pass. On the right flank of the corps, the 88th Infantry Division continues rapidly along the Santerno River valley, outdistancing the 85th Infantry Division, and the boundary is altered to give Mt. la Fine, except for western spur, to the 88th Infantry Division. In the British 13 Corps area, the Indian 8th Division completes the occupation Giogo di Villore without opposition.
In the British Eighth Army area, 5 Corps, with the Indian 4th Division on the left, the 46th Division in the center, and the 1st Armoured Division on the right, attacks across the Marecchia River, during the night of 22/23 September, and begins the struggle for ridges north of the river. The 56th Division withdraws from the line; its 168th Brigade ceases to exist as a fighting unit. In the Canadian I Corps area, the British 4th Division establishes a bridgehead across the Marecchia on the left flank of the corps, and the 5th Armoured Division prepares to attack through it. The New Zealand 2d Division takes command of the coastal sector, releasing the Canadian 1st Division and attached Greek 3d Mountain Brigade for a welcome rest.
In the air, the USAAF Twelfth Air Force, operating north of the Italian battle area, sends medium bombers to bomb road and rail bridges, while fighter-bombers continue hitting roads, railroads, and transportation, and support ground forces.

During the night of 22/23 September, 60 RAF heavy bombers of No. 205 (Heavy Bomber) Group bomb the pontoon bridge at San Benedetto.

CHINA: 13 US Tenth Air Force B-24s fly fuel to Liuchow.

24 US Fourteenth Air Force B-24s pound Hankow; 12 B-25s and 7 P-51s hit the Hengyang road junction and ferry; 7 B-25s bomb Kianghwa while 6 P-51s damage a nearby bridge; 5 B-25s hit Yungming; 44 P-40s and P-51s blast targets of opportunity along roads in the Changsha, Siangtaii, and Sintsiang areas. 50+ other P-40s and P-51s hit various targets of opportunity around Chuanhsien, Paoching, Lingling, Hankow, and Kiyang.

BURMA: Rangoon: Maj. Hugh Paul Seagrim (b.1909), 19th Hyderabad Regt., gave himself up to halt savage Japanese reprisals against Keren villagers who had sheltered his guerrilla party. He was executed today. (George Cross)

C-47 Skytrains fly 170+ sorties to various points in the CBI Theater.

COMMONWEALTH OF THE PHILIPPINES: Carrier-based aircraft from 12 aircraft carriers USN’s Task Groups 38.1, 38.2 and 38.3 continue to wreak havoc on Japanese shipping in the Philippines sinking eight ships and damaging two. .

Carrier-based aircraft of the USN’s Task Force 38 continue attacks in the Philippines. Eleven Japanese ships are sunk off Cebu and Luzon, and 92 damaged, as the raiders struck Subic Bay and Cavite naval yard. Japanese airfields near Manila and elsewhere on Luzon are attacked, damaging installations in the first US air raids on the Philippines since the fall of Corregidor. Planes from Admiral Halsey’s Third Fleet, 145 miles east of Luzon, claimed 205 Japanese planes, 110 of them shot down and 95 destroyed on the ground at Nicholls and Clark Fields. Fifteen US planes were lost in the raids.

NETHERLANDS EAST INDIES: USAAF Far East Air Forces B-24s again bomb Sidate and Mapanget on Celebes Island. B-24s and B-25s bomb Amahai on Ceram Island and Liang on Ambon Island and the airfield on Haroekoe Island.

NEW GUINEA: USAAF Far East Air Forces A-20s bomb Urarom Airfield while fighter-bombers hit Idorra, Windissi, Moemi, and Kaimana.

CAROLINE ISLANDS: PALAU ISLANDS: General Geiger orders one regiment from the 81st Infantry to Peleliu. He is attempting to offset some of the losses incurred by the Marines. A second regiment from this division will be committed before the battle is over. On Peleliu Island in the Palau Islands, the US Army’s 321st Infantry Regiment is landed and replaces the USMC’s 1st Marine Regiment. The 323d Infantry Regiment is still fighting on Angaur.

The Japanese continue the effective defence of the central ridges and are bringing up reinforcements. The 1st Marine Division observation planes are operating from the airfield.
On Angaur, elements of the 322d Infantry again push into the bowl in the Lake Salome area from the south but retire at night.

On Ulithi Atoll, Regimental Combat Team 323, 81st Infantry Division, lands without opposition and begins securing the atoll.
In the air, 15 USAAF Seventh Air Force B-25s, flying out of Makin Island, bomb Nauru Island.

US forces on Ulithi atoll, abandoned by the Japanese last month, discover an immense lagoon, invaluable as a potential naval base.

MARIANA ISLANDS: The USAAF Seventh Air Force sends 24 P-47s to strafe Pagan Island and bomb Anatahan Island.

VOLCANO ISLANDS: USAAF Seventh Air Force B-24s on a snooper mission and armed reconnaissance flight bomb Iwo Jima.

BONIN ISLANDS: The USAAF Seventh Air Force sends 15 Saipan Island-based B-24s to strike shipping at Chichi Jima Island.

NORTH PACIFIC: Three USAAF Seventh Air Force B-24s on a snooper mission and armed reconnaissance flight bomb Marcus Island.
15 B-25s, flying out of Makin Island, bomb Nauru Island.


7 posted on 09/22/2014 4:27:10 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Wouldn’t it be great to have the U.S. fighting for us?


8 posted on 09/22/2014 4:40:08 AM PDT by 867V309 (Crusade: the only solution.)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

So Eisenhower had a breakdown when he realized what his surrender to Monty on Market Garden meant?


9 posted on 09/22/2014 4:55:20 AM PDT by PAR35
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I searched my one bio of Eisenhower (Michael Korda’s) for a reference to a mental or physical breakdown between Overlord and Market-Garden. Didn’t find any, although his knee gave him problems.


10 posted on 09/22/2014 5:09:23 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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“We will return” is a promise that is going to be kept


11 posted on 09/22/2014 5:36:04 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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The caption under the picture informs readers that the bridge is stategic

12 posted on 09/22/2014 5:48:04 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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German situation map for Holland. Noticeable is that the Canadian 1st Army is clearing the Scheldt Estuary. The Germans have pulled at least three infantry divisions out of the south bank of the Scheldt (in what is known as the "Breskens Pocket"). They've been sent east because of Market-Garden. The real issues are that the British 2nd Army is busy fighting toward Arnhem instead of clearing the north bank of the Scheldt River near Antwerp, and the Canadians don't have the power to drive the Germans out of the estuary quickly. Instead it's a slow, bloody grind.

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13 posted on 09/22/2014 6:58:05 AM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
German situation map for the Aachen sector.

22 Sept 44 Aachen photo 22Sept44Aachen_zpsbc4a5699.jpg

14 posted on 09/22/2014 7:31:34 AM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
German situation map for Lorraine:

22 Sept 44 Lorraine photo 22Sept44Lorraine_zps0be28cba.jpg

One thing about these maps that has changed since Normandy. These selections I'm making are only small parts of a very large map of all of France, the Low Countries and Western Germany. Despite the fact it's a huge map, when you get down to the corps and army level, the detail just isn't there in terms of topography. These maps look like any may map you might find in a road atlas. But in military operations, terrain is everything.

Despite that, I'll take what I can get.

15 posted on 09/22/2014 7:40:24 AM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
German situation in Alsace opposite 6th Army Group. It's obvious that the Germans have knitted together some sort of cohesive front from Switzerland to the Channel. The units may be weak, but the line is continuous and they are digging in to make a stand. Despite what you read in the NYT, they're not dead yet.

22 Sept 44 Alsace photo 22Sept44Alsace_zps5bbbe768.jpg

16 posted on 09/22/2014 7:43:22 AM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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Nijmegen is so close to Arnhem. They really were close to pulling it off.


17 posted on 09/22/2014 3:55:59 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Upon reflection. Perhaps he ordered himself to several days of bed rest with Kay attending to his needs.


18 posted on 09/22/2014 6:04:32 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: colorado tanker

But they didn’t. And the Scheldt is still closed.


19 posted on 09/22/2014 8:03:27 PM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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