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flagship german offshore wind farm project humiliated by technical faults
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Posted on 09/14/2014 2:44:47 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: dayglored; All
it's a Ted Kennedy problem; "Drunken Swimmer" wanted marine
windpower, but not "the views" off Martha's Vineyards.
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posted on
09/14/2014 3:38:18 PM PDT
by
skinkinthegrass
(The end move in politics in always to pick up a weapon...eh? "Bathhouse" 0'Mullah? d8^)
To: dennisw
At least when wind farms are offshore, copper thieves can’t pillage them without a boat.
To: dennisw
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posted on
09/14/2014 4:00:39 PM PDT
by
SkyDancer
(I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am)
To: moovova
That far is likely due to huge fishing industry. Would be a lot of productive fishing grounds taken out of production. Think all the underwater cables running along the seabed. Snagged nets and major lawsuits or else just close the whole area to commercial fiahing and suffer the rage of the German public plus the huge hit to the German balance of trade.
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posted on
09/14/2014 4:01:35 PM PDT
by
PIF
(They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
To: SkyDancer
major problems with sea water corrosion and nightmare servicing 400 ft towers and complicated equipment way out there (in a wind)
dumbest idea them windmills!!!
To: dennisw
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posted on
09/14/2014 4:43:55 PM PDT
by
Chode
(Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
To: dayglored
Try Mark Duchamps article on the Scottish Eagle. I saw it on a Canadian website. I hope it’s ok with FR to refer to different websites as reference.
To: dennisw
FLAGSHIP GERMAN OFFSHORE WIND FARM PROJECT HUMILIATED BY TECHNICAL FAULTS Gee, even a caveman could have figured that out!
And our very own Independent-Communist Senator Angus King wants to bring this wonderful development to the coastal waters of Maine...the "Saudi Arabia of Wind".
Of course, he wouldn't directly profit from all those taxpayer dollars now....Would he?
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posted on
09/14/2014 4:46:24 PM PDT
by
ROCKLOBSTER
(Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
To: moovova
I do have to ask...why 100km off shore? Tides/currents? Winds? Geography? Shipping lanes? The noise?
That seems like a long way.
Dead birds washing ashore.
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posted on
09/14/2014 5:12:42 PM PDT
by
867V309
(Crusade: the only solution.)
To: Leo Carpathian
Serves Germany right. Didn’t they close down some nuke plants because they were scared a tsunami would take them out like at Fukashima?
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posted on
09/14/2014 5:14:50 PM PDT
by
SkyDancer
(I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am)
To: dennisw
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posted on
09/14/2014 5:16:35 PM PDT
by
NormsRevenge
(Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
To: SkyDancer
Hih? There is hardly any coast, %-wise anyway.
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posted on
09/14/2014 5:24:53 PM PDT
by
the OlLine Rebel
(Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
To: the OlLine Rebel
After the tsunami destroyed the Fukushima plants, Germany moved quickly to shut eight nuclear power plants, and made plans do away completely with their nuclear capability. Despite the best safety record of any industry in the country, and the critical role nuclear plays in fueling German industry, Germanys past experience with large tsunamis was just too horrific to ignore. And Germanys strong economy and commitment to protect the environment were small prices to pay for Chancellor Merkel to shore up her weak coalition with the Free Democrats. Maybe she can ask Greece for help later. http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesconca/2012/08/31/germany-insane-or-just-plain-stupid/
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posted on
09/14/2014 5:28:54 PM PDT
by
SkyDancer
(I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am)
To: Chode
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posted on
09/14/2014 6:42:57 PM PDT
by
dennisw
(The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
To: Chode
Looks like over-speed causing tip speed to exceed the speed of sound, which is surprisingly easy on these big rotors.
Where's that from?
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posted on
09/14/2014 6:52:13 PM PDT
by
dayglored
(Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
To: dayglored
not sure, i thinking rotational speed induced blade delamination
just thought it fir the thread
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posted on
09/14/2014 7:41:20 PM PDT
by
Chode
(Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
To: dennisw; dayglored
Oh yeah, she was singin alright... blade delamanation in post#54 big time
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posted on
09/14/2014 7:45:18 PM PDT
by
Chode
(Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
To: Steely Tom
They had to build it quickly. Global Warming might have evaporated the ocean before the could figure out the power transmission problem.That's right.
Al Bore said we only had 5 years to prevent armageddon.
That was over fifteen years ago, as I recall...
We are all already dead.
To: dayglored
I'm no fan (pun intentional) of large wind farms, but to be fair, this doesn't sound like a WIND GENERATOR problem, this sounds like a POWER TRANSMISSION problem, and that's independent of the source of the power. I totally disagree.
It's not a power transmission problem.
It's a SYNCHRONIZATION PROBLEM coupled with very high voltages and current.
To: publius911
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It's a SYNCHRONIZATION PROBLEM coupled with very high voltages and current. Synchronization between which components? Generator frequency/phase and landline freq/phase? Between/among multiple generators?
On the assumption that the generators are producing multi-phase AC at a frequency determined by the wind (and at, as you say, very high volts and amps), getting the power transferred should be a difficult but already solved problem -- don't windfarm generators do that all the time?
What are the Germans doing that's so different? Or did they just screw up implementing a known solution?
Many years ago (c. 1980) I designed multi-phase inverters at the 400HP level and we had ways of synchronizing with the existing AC line to pump power to and from the mains. This German issue is 30+ years later. WTF did they do wrong?
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posted on
09/14/2014 10:49:57 PM PDT
by
dayglored
(Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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