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Fighter Pilot Was Tasked With Taking Out United 93 By Crashing Into It
Townhall.com ^ | September 12, 2014 | Matt Vespa

Posted on 09/12/2014 5:52:45 PM PDT by Kaslin

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To: BobL

It may have been ARROGANCE before, it’s DELIBERATE NEGLIGENCE now.

None of those presidents before wanted to see the USA destroyed.

This current one does.


21 posted on 09/12/2014 6:45:23 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Kaslin

i read this many years ago. scary to be put in such a position. i have no doubt both pilots would have done it.


22 posted on 09/12/2014 6:46:25 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (we shouldn't fear the government. the government should fear us.)
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To: Josa

That’s terrible. My son was one of the few surviving crew members of those two Navy planes that collided over the Pacific in 1991. He had given up his slot to somebody who needed the flying hours.


23 posted on 09/12/2014 6:51:28 PM PDT by livius
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To: Secret Agent Man

“It may have been ARROGANCE before, it’s DELIBERATE NEGLIGENCE now.”

Hard to argue that. But there is still a lot of ARROGANCE on the right...the people, some who post on this site, seem to be stuck in the early 90s, when the US had a strong, large, and modern military, and the Russians couldn’t even pay their soldiers or sail their ships.

Now, 20 years later, it has COMPLETELY FLIPPED over, yet some IDIOTS on our side still can’t seem to comprehend that.


24 posted on 09/12/2014 6:55:32 PM PDT by BobL (Don't forget - Today's Russians learn math WITHOUT calculators.)
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To: GOPJ
She has no reason to lie.

What is this, a naivete' test?

Good Lord.

25 posted on 09/12/2014 7:01:51 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Kaslin

I’m a bit foggy, but I think the Mass ANG scrambled 2 alert F-15’s from cape cod. They were vectored onto flt 93. They were armed and cleared to shoot. The airliner crashed prior to their arrival.
I am a former alert/interceptor pilot that sat a lot of alert prior to 9/11 with fully armed planes.


26 posted on 09/12/2014 7:04:26 PM PDT by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!!)
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To: Engedi

There are a lot of thoughts that come to mind and you touch on some of the ones I had thought about. I agree with you.


27 posted on 09/12/2014 7:09:44 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama and the Left are maggots feeding off the flesh of the United States.)
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To: Usagi_yo
I believe the story is apocryphal. It’s hard to imagine that on the whole eastern seaboard not one Jet was scramble ready and armed.

I believe the two F-15As that scrambled from Cape Cod were armed. Still damned shameful.

28 posted on 09/12/2014 7:12:02 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: stanne
I recall this same stories from 13 years ago when all the tin-foil people started the crap about United 93 being shot down. I even recall the mention of one of the USAF pilots being female.

It was not sop then to keep hot armed jets on the flight line ready to go. The story I read right here on FR back then is exactly the same account I read in 2001, other than they named the pilots in this story. They were ready to ram that flight if it had gotten close to Washington. The hero's on Flight 93 saved them from that horrible duty.

The tin-foil hat people should all be ashamed, but the reality is they are too damed stupid to feel shame.

29 posted on 09/12/2014 7:12:13 PM PDT by Ditto
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To: Jim Noble

I wasn’t too thrilled with our preparedness. It was shocking how unprepared we were.

Seriously, who didn’t know they could do this sort of thing? You may not be ready to protect Siloam Springs, Arkansas, but New York City? Washington, D.C.? The freakin’ Pentagon?

Come on folks.


30 posted on 09/12/2014 7:12:31 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama and the Left are maggots feeding off the flesh of the United States.)
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To: Kaslin

Just researched it a bit. Yes, 2 F-16’s from Langley were initially sent toward flt 93. But two armed F-15 from Otis ANG were also airborne and would have been able to shoot down the airliner.
Bottom line, no ramming required. Also, no way flt 93 was going to make it’s planned target. White house or capital bldg.


31 posted on 09/12/2014 7:13:45 PM PDT by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!!)
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To: Celtic Conservative

Thanks for the comments. That would have been interesting to be that close to the base and watch what you could.


32 posted on 09/12/2014 7:13:49 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama and the Left are maggots feeding off the flesh of the United States.)
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To: GOPJ

I think you misunderstand my intent here.

I don’t know her or the full story. If I’m going to get worked up over some of the claims, and respond angrily, I want to allow for a disclaimer, if this is revealed to be bogus later on.

I’m not accusing her of anything, but I also don’t want to charge others incorrectly either.

I have no reason to doubt her story. I have nothing against her. If true, I am very angry she was put in that position.


33 posted on 09/12/2014 7:16:22 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama and the Left are maggots feeding off the flesh of the United States.)
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To: tpmintx

I would disagree with that.


34 posted on 09/12/2014 7:17:03 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama and the Left are maggots feeding off the flesh of the United States.)
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To: Kaslin

Years ago the AF had a maneuver to do exactly this. It was called a “slide-by” and was part of Air Defense Command’s (ADC) plan to defend America against a Soviet Bison and Bear attack. After all weapons had been expended by the interceptor pilot he was to be vectored to a position parallel to the flight path of the bomber. The interceptor pilot would then pull back and into the wing root of the bomber to bring it down. I know because I was one of the controllers.


35 posted on 09/12/2014 7:17:17 PM PDT by Portcall24
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To: Ditto

“The tin-foil hat people should all be ashamed, but the reality is they are too damed stupid to feel shame. “

I agree. There is a cadre of people, even here, who see conspiracy and deviousness in just about everything.

What a way to live.

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36 posted on 09/12/2014 7:19:13 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Usagi_yo

Except if the Clinton administration ordered Norad to downgrade our defenses. I’m not convinced they didn’t.

That administration was clueless on Military matters. Heck, a lot of others too.


37 posted on 09/12/2014 7:19:17 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama and the Left are maggots feeding off the flesh of the United States.)
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To: Kaslin

If true, it would be morally reprhensible to kill the innocents on that plane directly even to save other lives on the ground. Like Americans do not do intentional, direct evil that good may come of it


38 posted on 09/12/2014 7:20:41 PM PDT by amihow
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To: Portcall24

” The interceptor pilot would then pull back and into the wing root of the bomber to bring it down. I know because I was one of the controllers.’


Oh,lord. I had to look up “wing root”,but the bravery of people prepared to do something like this astonishes me.

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39 posted on 09/12/2014 7:25:03 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Ditto

I am sure the first amendment provides me the right to voice my opinion

It doesn’t grant me protection from the hostility of those who take a differing opinion as their right to attack me.

If it were important, it would be in there. I can take it

The fact is that whoever knows the classified info on this has enough sense of his security clearance to not discuss it here on FR

So the fact is that all the talk on this here is opinion.

We do not know

What we do know is that whether or not this is true, this woman is a

Blabber mouth


40 posted on 09/12/2014 7:28:55 PM PDT by stanne
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