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EU Threatens New Sanctions; Russia Responds with Threats on Natural Gas
Townhall.com ^ | September 9, 2014 | Mike Shedlock

Posted on 09/09/2014 9:52:55 AM PDT by Kaslin

The tit-for-tat sanction madness in Europe took a huge leap forward today with new sanctions in the work on Russian energy companies.

Russia responded by threatening to restrict commercial flights over its airspace, by threatening to halt reverse flows of natural gas to Ukraine, and with a threat to reduce gas delivery to Europe.

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1 posted on 09/09/2014 9:52:55 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Time for the U.S. to start exporting massive amounts of Natural gas. Russia is playing with an old deck.


2 posted on 09/09/2014 9:58:51 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (We'll know when he's really hit bottom. They'll start referring to him as White.)
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To: Kaslin

If Europe stuck with it and endured the hardship that would be involved they’d win an all out trade war hands down.The USSR 2.0 is a Fourth World country with nukes and oil.


3 posted on 09/09/2014 9:58:51 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Islamopobia:The Irrational Fear Of Being Beheaded)
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Related info:

As Europe braces for Russian gas cuts, some traders bet on peace
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/09/us-ukraine-crisis-gas-europe-idUSKBN0H41ER20140909

State-controlled Russian gas giant Gazprom meets around one third of Europe’s gas demand, worth some $80 billion a year, and it sends almost half of these supplies through Ukraine.

Some traders have steadily bid up winter gas prices on fears of a sudden halt in Russian gas deliveries, which would trigger price spikes and in southeast Europe most likely power and heating outages.

The sense of urgency is so great that authorities across the region are preparing contingency plans that include forcing industry to stop using gas in order to protect households.

Gas prices for delivery during the winter at European trading hubs such as Britain’s National Balancing Point (NBP) have rallied over 8 percent since July, while consultancy Energy Aspects predicts a doubling of gas prices if Ukrainian transit flows are cut.

With markets and governments preparing for the worst, some traders are betting on the opposite, expecting Russian gas to continue to flow, resulting in a market that could be oversupplied especially because stored reserves are so high.

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4 posted on 09/09/2014 10:01:21 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: Kaslin

Surely no one in the EU is surprised by this move.


5 posted on 09/09/2014 10:01:23 AM PDT by econjack (I'm not bossy...I just know what you should be doing.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Time for the U.S. to start exporting massive amounts of Natural gas.

It will take several years to build the LNG export facilities.

6 posted on 09/09/2014 10:01:59 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

I think you are right. In the long run, Russia has more to lose. The question is, can the euroweenies hold out for the long run, or even 3 days?


7 posted on 09/09/2014 10:04:29 AM PDT by samtheman
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Sanctions halted:

European markets fell Tuesday amid geopolitical jitters after ...”EU governments abruptly halted new sanctions against Russia”.... to assess the latest Ukraine cease-fire.

http://www.thestreet.com/story/12869595/1/european-stocks-fall-as-eu-halts-new-russia-sanctions.html


8 posted on 09/09/2014 10:05:31 AM PDT by caww
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Exactly. This can’t be done overnight. Europe had better hope for a mild winter.


9 posted on 09/09/2014 10:08:36 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: samtheman

The question is, can the euroweenies hold out for the long run, or even 3 days?

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No. I’d bet on them caving at the first sign of a cold snap.


10 posted on 09/09/2014 10:10:19 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Kaslin
I get it that the EU puppetmasters want to own Ukraine's resources and potential wealth. But this has become absurd. Do they really want the inept and war-thirsty Kiev gov in charge of the land between Turkey and Europe? Russia is far more capable of keeping that region secure for civilization.

The real threat isn't Putin. It's that Europe is being over-run by Muslims who don't like them. Is saving the Kiev gov really worth risking the resources they need and being over-run from the east?

11 posted on 09/09/2014 10:12:53 AM PDT by grania
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EU sanctions against Russia delayed for now..

EU ambassadors meet again to discuss the issue on Wednesday.

Jacek Saryusz-Wolski, a Polish centre-right MEP, said: “Either this agreement on ceasefire is respected or there will be further escalation on the EU side in terms of sanctions.”.......If implemented, the measures would target Russian state-owned oil firms and defence contractors.

Russia has warned of retaliation if any further sanctions are implemented.

http://www.euronews.com/2014/09/09/eu-sanctions-against-russia-delayed-for-now/

Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev has warned Russia may shut its air corridors to Western airlines if the next round of European sanctions hit Russian energy companies.

“If there are sanctions related to the energy sector, or further restrictions on Russia’s financial sector, we will have to respond asymmetrically,” Medvedev said in an interview with the Vedomosti newspaper, published on Monday.

http://www.eurasiareview.com/09092014-medvedev-says-new-eu-sanctions-result-closure-russian-airspace/


12 posted on 09/09/2014 10:13:20 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww

more info:

UPDATE 2-EU delays enforcing new Russia sanctions
http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/09/08/ukraine-crisis-eu-ambassadors-idINL5N0R944E20140908

The European Union adopted new sanctions against Russia over its involvement in the Ukraine war on Monday, but delayed enforcing them to leave time to assess whether a ceasefire in Ukraine is holding.

The sanctions, which target the ability of Russia’s top oil producers to raise capital in Europe, were originally due to take effect on Tuesday.

But that was pushed back by a few days after some EU governments suggested that new sanctions be put on hold to give a chance to a shaky ceasefire in eastern Ukraine.

Some EU countries opposed to further punishment of Moscow see the ceasefire, which was declared on Friday and still largely intact on Monday, as an opportunity to block the new EU sanctions package and avoid retaliation from Russia, diplomats said.UPDATE 2-EU delays enforcing new Russia sanctions.

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13 posted on 09/09/2014 10:14:59 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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Thanks for the mention.

Doesn’t help right now, but it would soon.

I’d expect they could build the facilities faster, if they wanted all those profits more.


14 posted on 09/09/2014 10:25:36 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (We'll know when he's really hit bottom. They'll start referring to him as White.)
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To: Kaslin
Last two lines from the article :

Why EU and US economic-jackasses think sanctions will accomplish anything positive or change Russia's behavior one bit is at first glance a bit of a mystery.

However, economic-jackasses by definition are going to do stupid things, so we should expect more and more of the same failed tactics.

15 posted on 09/09/2014 10:25:42 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: grania
It isn't only about the Ukraine. How much of the old Soviet Union are you willing to cede back to Putin in order to buy his help in securing peace in the Middle East? Kazakhstan? (Putin has already said it's not a “real” country.) The Baltics? Putin wants to put Humpty Dumpty back together again, and won't be satisfied until he does.
16 posted on 09/09/2014 10:35:19 AM PDT by riverdawg
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To: DoughtyOne

I’d expect they could build the facilities faster, if they wanted all those profits more.

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You don’t think they try to get the return on their invested money as soon as possible already? They are spending billions before it comes online.


17 posted on 09/09/2014 10:37:28 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: thackney

Not trying to trash anyone. This is a strategic need as much as anything else. If doubling up shifts or hiring in massive amounts of manpower to get the job done early would help, I’d like to see it done.

You’d probably wind up spending about the same amount if you can keep it non-union.

I’d like to see Europe free from being blackmailed.


18 posted on 09/09/2014 10:40:16 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (We'll know when he's really hit bottom. They'll start referring to him as White.)
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Do they really want the inept and war-thirsty Kiev gov in charge...

During the Vietnam war combat troops used to fear the words "zips in the wire" which means "the enemy has infiltrated our perimeter".So now I'll warn everyone on this thread that *we* have at least one zip in the wire...you.

What's it like being a Putinista? Is it how muscular Vlad looks without a shirt that makes you swoon?

19 posted on 09/09/2014 10:40:58 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Islamopobia:The Irrational Fear Of Being Beheaded)
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To: DoughtyOne
If doubling up shifts or hiring in massive amounts of manpower to get the job done early would help, I’d like to see it done.

And who do you think should pay for that?

You’d probably wind up spending about the same amount if you can keep it non-union.

Not a chance. If it was the same amount with a faster return, it would already be done that way.

20 posted on 09/09/2014 10:43:05 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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